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It's been awhile hasn't it? I thought I would share a free version of my small ebook to help the long-suffering caker-hostages in such shit holes as Edmonton, Ottawa, Regina, Winnipeg and so on. At the very least, I hope it gives you a small smile, a couple chuckles and a few minutes of reprieve. Enjoy!



This is from back when I had a sense of humor. Should I make a sequel or extended edition? Let me know!


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Starves the Soul, Feeds the Ego


It was another blogger who coined the term "starves the soul, feeds the ego" in regards to Canada, or at least introduced me to it. There is no more apt description of Canadian life. 

There is something incredibly hollow and shallow about its society and culture. The media feeds the constantly needy caker-complex, bathing the national ego in anecdotes about politeness, kindness, desirability and superiority. Raging with insecurity, the caker is fed a nonstop barrage of supercilious tales regarding its southern neighbor; no matter the ailment, smug-condescension is the balm that soothes. I often imagine the personification of Canada: a frail, thin, frowning man sitting at a long feast table among a crowd; the more they eat the fatter they grow, and yet Canada sits there woefully, malnourished, eating and eating while never feeling full. The more he eats, the thinner he grows and the less satiated he feels: starves the soul, feeds the ego. 

Such is life in a cultural wasteland where honesty is never valued, the past remains hidden, progress is undermined and souls burning with passion are slowly extinguished until they languish, whither and smoke out.

In Canada appearances are everything and take precedent over integrity, change and growth.


To make itself appear progressive and liberal, Canada placed a black woman (Viola Desmond) on the ten dollar bill to gain plaudits from the international community. And yet, this same country hid its past of slavery for hundreds of years, from generations of its citizens. To this day, the overwhelming majority of Canadians don't know their country had slavery for over two centuries, and the few that do learned from open information now available through the internet, not their government. 

On the opposite side of the bill is an image of the Museum for Human Rights, located in Manitoba. Beside it is a feather, meant to represent the First Nations peoples. Here too, lies massive irony and rot. The museum cost $351 million dollars and is located in a small province [pop: less than 1.5 million] with the worst statistics for Indigenous people (racism, crime, poverty, living conditions), where one third of children are living in poverty; a figure which rises to over 75% of Aboriginal children on reserves. 

This bill is but one obvious example of Canada's rank hypocrisy and desire for global promotion and accolades over substantial action at home. Starves the soul, feeds the ego.

When a sore point is touched on Canadian policy (foreign or domestic), or a light shined on internal issues, the default reaction is to look to the United States as a red herring for inaction and ineptitude. But despite the many well-known issues of America, I am in agreement with this commentator:
There is something seriously sick about Canada, something that permeates the air with its rotten tones of corruption, denial, and monstrosity. At least in America there is an active and robust social dynamic that keeps the fresh air flowing over the dead bodies and the hope of change, but in Canada? They’re still a monarchical colony who worship a queen ...

Rot, corruption, denial and sickness: the culture shows no promise of changing any time soon, but will continue to put on airs for the international community. 

Starves the soul, feeds the ego.


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Foreword (Quoting George Elliot Clarke)


I wanted to share this Foreword to the book The Hanging of Angelique, written by George Elliot Clarke. I only recently discovered this book, and the summary in the beginning perfectly captures everything I've been saying, only with more eloquence than my rantings.

I find Canada worse than the United States in the same way I find a corrupt police officer worse than a criminal: it is the complete betrayal of trust based on false imagery and misrepresentation; the total base hypocrisy which is abominable and beyond contempt.

So, to quote:



"As I WRITE THIS FOREWORD, Mme. Michaelle Jean, born in Haiti in 1957 and a resident of Montreal, Quebec, since 1968, is being sworn in as Her Excellency, the governor general of Canada, the nation's twenty-seventh head of state. Mme. Jean is, culturally, Haitian-Quebecoise-French; historically, she is like the vast majority of Black people in the western hemisphere-- a descendant of African slaves. While performing her viceregal duties, this savvy intellectual-- a socially oriented broadcast journalist by trade, a student of Haitian and Quebecois history, and a speaker of five languages-- may reflect on the irony that she is queen in all but name of a society, Canada, that was established just as Haiti was, on the economic basis of African servitude. Not surprisingly, European-Canadian commentators on Mme. Jean's ascension have noted that she is a "descendant of Hatian slaves" and some have applauded Canada's blindness concerning "race" and "gender"-- that is to say, it's supposed liberality-- in selecting a Black woman for the post of head of state and commander-in-chief of the Canadian Armed Forces. 

But forgotten (in fact, repressed) amid all the analyses of Mme. Jean's elevation is Canada's own practice of slavery, Aboriginal and African, its emancipation of slaves only by imperial fiat (from London), and its continued conjoining of labour needs and "race" in its immigration practices. Forgotten too, are the two salient anniversaries that 2005 represents for African Canadians: the arrival of the first African person in Canada, namely, Mathieu de Coste, in 1605; and the relaxation of anti-Black immigration laws with the 1955 promulgation of the West Indian Domestic Scheme.

The avoidance of Canada's sorry history of slavery and racism is natural. It is how Canadians prefer to understand themselves: we are a nation of good, Nordic, "pure", mainly White folks, as opposed to the lawless, hot-tempered, impure, mongrel Americans, with their messy history of slavery, civil war, segregation, assassinations, lynchings, riots, and constant social turmoil. Key to this propaganda--and that is what it is-- is the Manichaean portrayal of two nations: Canada, the land of "Peace, Order, and Good Government," of evolution within the traditional constraints of monarchy and authority, where racism was not and is not tolerated, versus the United States of America, the land of guns, cockroaches, and garbage, of criminal sedition confronted by aggressive policing (and jailing), where racism was and is the arbiter of class (im)mobility. 

Indeed, in Canada, "race" and racism are concepts used to refight the American Revolution, to establish that the Yankee Revolt against the Crown was wrong, while Canada's loyalty to the monarchy, heirarchy, and public order fostered a more harmonious and, ironically, rouge-tinted society.

But the price of this flattering self-portrait is public lying, falsified history, and self-destructive blindness. It means that we can forget about a Canadian-led expedition to the Congo in the 1880s, which resulted in Africans' heads being cut off and stuck on fence posts-- a scene that may have inspired Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness. We can guiltlessly commemorate, with a single plaque, an entire Black community-- Africville-- which had been in existence for almost 150 years when, in 1962, the city of Halifax decided to relocate its citizens, razing and burying all signs of Africville's former life. We can ignore the contributions of nineteenth-century Black settlers who cleared and tilled parts of this land until "official" settlers arrived from Ireland and England and claimed the title. Think, for instance, of Priceville, Ontario, where, in 1989, grave markers of the town's first inhabitants turned up in a farmer's field. Only then did the townspeople "discover" that the Black cemetery had been ploughed under, the Black presence buried and all but forgotten.

Our refusal to embrace the facts of our history means that we, as a people, can commit atrocities such as the one that occurred in Somalia in 1992, when "our boys," part of a taxpayer-funded, elite paratrooper regiment, shot three Somalis and lynched one, a child. It means that we make liars out of our "coloured"-- that is, "visible minority"-- citizens, as our federal government did in 2003. In that year, when the United Nations released a report stating that Africans and Aboriginals suffer racism in Canada, the response of the Liberal government of Canada was that the UN was wrong...

... Unlike American literature and society, in which rebels, Black and White, are celebrated, canonized with folk songs, and given "star billing," even if they were silenced by officially sanctioned bullets or state executions, Canadian literature boasts very, very few such figures. The Manitoban mystic Louis Riel, hanged for insurrection in 1885, is one vaunted rebel, especially for Metis and francophones. In African-Canadian circles, no such celebrity exists; our "criminals" are seldom martyrs...

... The reader will notice, no doubt, that, while I claim that Mme. Angelique is the best-known African-Canadian slave, she appears in only a handful of texts (excluding histories). Here we address the nub of the problem that Dr. Cooper's research challenges: the repression of the history of Canadian slavery necessitates the oblivion of actors such as Mme. Angelique. The recovery of that history mandates the remembering of representative and extraordinary slaves...

Some may object that, because colonial Canadian slavery was not as extensive as the Southern U.S. version, Dr. Cooper's research is academic and inconsequential. However, we must recognize that slavery was practiced in a solid third of what is now Canada-- in Upper Canada (Ontario), New France (Quebec), New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Nova Scotia; that it numbered in thousands of slaves (with the greatest number in New France), held "legally" under various colonial regimes and traded globally; that it lasted for more than two hundred years; and that it ended only because it was not vital to the boreal economy. 

As historian James Walker has argued, because colonial Canada held African slaves, its society fostered anti-Black racism-Negrophobia that persists in Canada today. Furthermore, because slavery was all about extracting free--and hard-- labour from understandably recalcitrant persons, it sanctioned torture, even in Canada. Thus, one reads that a Loyalist kept his slaves chained to his basement walls in Fredericton, New Brunswick; or that a Nova Scotian bachelor minister owned two teenage female slaves, thus exciting public controversy; or that a Nova Scotian mistress bludgeoned a boy slave to death with a hammer; or that "a slave of Judge Upham" was hanged, on flimsy grounds, for the murder of a White woman in New Brunswick; or that Jean-Baptiste Thomas was hanged in the Montreal market, for theft, in the summer of 1735 (just a year after Mme. Angelique was executed); or that Josiah Cutten was hanged, in Ontario, in 1789, but was likened to animals that "go about at Night for their prey". Ah, the records of Canadian slavery are every bit as vicious as those we Canadians know so much better-- those of the Great Republic...

... "Four hundred years after the first African landed on Canadian shores (in Nova Scotia), 270 years after the grisly execution of Mme. Angelique, 170 years after the British Empire abolished slavery in Canada, and 50 years after Blacks were once again permitted to immigrate to Canada (specifically, from the Caribbean), one watches a brilliant irony unfold: the Jamaican-Canadian Dr. Cooper, a native of a society of slave revolts, presents her governor general, the Haitian-Canadian Mme. Jean, a native of a country established in rebellion and revolution, with a document about another Black woman, who was a martyr for liberty in colonial Canada."



Thank you for summing up my inner thoughts and feeling so much more articulately than I could, especially with the disgust I feel for all of Canada's secrecy, lies, propaganda, denial, racism and unwarranted arrogance. 

I now finish off with a quote from Afua Cooper in her Preface:
"The story of Angelique provides an opportunity for us to reclaim a hidden past. Since much of the Black past has been deliberately buried, covered over, and demolished, it is our task to unearth, uncover and piece it together again. This we are called to do, because the dead speak to us."



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Remember When? ... #hangingofangelique


Remember When is a new series of posts where we take a look back at some of the funny, bizarre and downright disturbing incidents in Canada's past.

Since cakers like to judge everyone else (particularly Americans) and point out their historic wrong-doings, it's time to take a mirror to these incompetent hypocrites. Enjoy!


Marie-Joseph Angelique

Marie was a badass forgotten by virtually everyone in Canada until only recently; remembered vaguely by few historians and celebrated as a figure of black resistance by Canada's black population (at less than 3%).

She was born in 1705 in Portugal, enslaved and later brought to North America. After arriving in New England she was purchased by a Montreal man who brought her back to his hometown to work as his slave. After he died, Marie-Joseph carried on in service to his widow who gave her the name "Angelique". She took a white indentured laborer as her lover, named Claude Thibault. 

She asked her owner for freedom but was denied, so she started raising hell: talking back, threatening death, fighting with other servants and claiming she'd burn shit down. Being such a nuisance, she was sold to a Quebec City man in exchange for 600 pounds of gun powder. Before she could be relocated she set fire to her bed and ran away with Thibault. They were caught and returned. 

One evening a portion of Montreal caught fire and Angelique was blamed for setting it. 
Angélique was accused of starting the fire and arrested by police on 11 April. She was taken to court the following morning, where she was charged with arson, a capital crime punishable by death, torture or banishment. 
In the French legal system of the 18th century, the accused was presumed guilty, and in New France, there were no trials by jury, only inquisitorial tribunals in which the defendant was meant to prove her innocence. Lawyers were banned from practicing in the colony by Louis XIV.

She was brought before the tribunal where witnesses testified that she'd previously threatened to burn things. After six weeks she was found guilty and sentenced to death.
She was to have her hands cut off and be burned alive. The sentence was appealed to the superior court in Québec City, where the death penalty was upheld and the gruesome aspects of the sentencing lessened. Angélique would be tortured, hanged, and then her body burned. She returned to Montréal to await her death.

In June of  1734, the twenty-nine year old woman was tortured in her jail cell. She broke down and "confessed" to the crime but refused to name her lover as a co-conspirator. Afterwards she was taken by garbage cart to the down town church and forced to make a public apology and beg for forgiveness. She was then hanged.

Slavery would last for over 200 years in Canada; its history intentionally hidden and forgotten for generations. If there is one person who puts a face, name and story to all the blacks who were enslaved - it is Marie-Joseph Angelique. She did not roll over and take her slavery with resignation, but demanded her freedom and attempted to take it. 


The Hanging of Angelique

 From Amazon:
Writer, historian and poet Afua Cooper tells the astonishing story of Marie-Joseph Angélique, a slave woman convicted of starting a fire that destroyed a large part of Montréal in April 1734 and condemned to die a brutal death. In a powerful retelling of Angélique’s story—now supported by archival illustrations—Cooper builds on 15 years of research to shed new light on a rebellious Portuguese-born black woman who refused to accept her indentured servitude. At the same time, Cooper completely demolishes the myth of a benign, slave-free Canada, revealing a damning 200- year-old record of legally and culturally endorsed slavery.

Of course in Canada we learn all about the crusty old racist white men who helped found this nation, but not the freedom-loving badasses who tried to escape it!


Post Script

The majority of the book provides historical context for Angelique's time and the events which led up to it. Her story compromises the ending, and details are scarce due to minimal records. I am glad that I know it. There is also a great list of slavery narratives in the epilogue (and an introduction to Fado music). 

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Remember When? ... #airindiabombing


Remember When is a new series of posts where we take a look back at some of the funny, bizarre and downright disturbing incidents in Canada's past.

Since cakers like to judge everyone else (particularly Americans) and point out their historic wrong-doings, it's time to take a mirror to these incompetent hypocrites. Enjoy!


Loss of Faith: How The Air India Bombers Got Away With Murder

From Amazon
On June 23, 1985, Canada found itself on the international terrorism map when two bombs built in B.C. detonated within an hour of each other on opposite sides of the world, killing 329 men, women, and children. 
Canadian Sikh separatists, upset at the Indian government for attacking their religion’s holiest shrine, the Golden Temple, were immediately suspected by the RCMP of perpetrating the worst act of aviation terrorism before Sept. 11, 2001. But while police agencies scrambled to infiltrate a close-knit immigrant community and collect evidence against the suspects, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service was destroying taped telephone calls between the same people the RCMP was investigating. 
For years those at the centre of the terrorist plot tried to protect their dark secret. Two Sikh newspaper publishers who overheard an alleged confession by one of the bombers were assassinated. Other potential witnesses were threatened and intimidated. Journalists who wrote about the suspects were targeted by death threats and harassment. The suspects founded charities and participated in political parties, attending fundraising dinners for premiers and prime ministers.  And the families of the victims fought to be recognized for their unimaginable loss as the result of an act of terrorism plotted in Canada. When charges were finally laid against three Sikh separatists, the families believed justice was almost theirs. But their faith was shaken when one suspect pleaded guilty to manslaughter and got a five-year sentence for more than three hundred deaths. 
The Air-India trial judge spoke in his ruling of the “the senseless horror” of the bombings. He called the plot “a diabolical act of terrorism” with “roots in fanaticism at its basest and most inhumane level.” He then acquitted Sikh leaders Ripudaman Singh Malik and Ajaib Singh Bagri on all charges, leaving the victims’ families reeling and the biggest case in Canadian history officially unsolved. 
Kim Bolan is an award-winning investigative reporter who has covered the Air-India bombing case since the day Flight 182 went down off the coast of Ireland. Her work on the Air-India story has taken her to Punjab five times over the last twenty years where she met with militant Sikh separatist leaders and victims of the violence. She also followed Air-India mastermind Talwinder Singh Parmar to Pakistan before his 1992 slaying and chased down other suspects in England and across Canada. But she faced the most danger at home in Vancouver where the stories she uncovered about the Air-India case led to a series of death threats against her."

Terrorists? Bombings? Destroying evidence and tapes? Assassinations? Murderers rubbing shoulders with politicians? A five year sentence for killing hundreds of people? Wow, this is India - right? Nope, this is good ol' British Columbia, Canada! 

(Welcome to BC ... also known as Bring Cash or Be Corrupt.)


So why don't Canadians ever discuss the Air India Bombing? Why do they know so little about it? Why doesn't anyone care? Questions asked by a piece in The Tyee:
All 329 people on board Air India Flight 182 on June 23, 1985, 33 years ago today, were killed, including 280 citizens or permanent residents of Canada.
They were lost to a bomb that exploded while their plane was in Irish airspace, en route from Canada to India. The bomb had been planted in Canada in an act of terror planned by extremists allegedly advocating for a separate Sikh state in the Punjab. 
It was Canada’s worst mass murder, yet it is barely remembered in this country.
Today, Canadians commonly regard the bombing as an Indian tragedy, or at most an Indo-Canadian tragedy. They typically dwell on the terrorism, but rarely on the grief and hardship of fathers, mothers, wives, husbands, children, friends and neighbours left behind. 
Why hasn’t this tragedy claimed a prominent place in Canadian history and public memory? Some now call it Canada’s 9/11, but until the attack in New York City some 16 years later, they didn’t call it much at all. 
The Canadian families of the dead wonder year after year why no one but them seems to care, or why their grief is seen as less worthy than that of others who are more openly taken into the nation’s heart.

The answer is simple: Canada hides from the truth. No doubt racism is involved (these people are less "Canadian" being brown or immigrants), but much more than that - Canada never acknowledges its corruption, rot, or hypocrisy. To do so would involve honesty and then efforts to change ... Canadians prefer to ignore, whitewash or deny. Ignoring facts is easy, action is difficult.



The controversy would rear its ugly head again with the election of Jagmeet Singh as NDP leader. He was asked questions about one of the suspects (considered a leader in the conspiracy but never found guilty due to insufficient evidence) - and in typical Canadian style there were no straight answers, whining about "racism" and absolutely nothing constructive accomplished or discovered.

From The Georgia Straight:

"Not long after Jagmeet Singh was elected NDP leader, he sat down for an interview with the CBC's Terry Milewski in early October.... 
Given Milewski's history covering this story, it shouldn't come as a huge surprise that he asked the new NDP leader if he would denounce Parmar—who's been glorified as a Sikh martyr at the Dasmesh Darbar gurdwara in Surrey. 
Singh, a baptized Sikh who wears a turban, replied that "we need to make sure that the investigation results in a conviction of someone who is actually responsible". 
And for a few days, there was a media and social-media firestorm over Milewski's question, Singh's answer, and the CBC journalist's subsequent tweet... 
Critics of Milewski said he would never ask this question of a white political leader. Singh himself called the question "offensive", saying any Canadian would denounce anyone held responsible for terrorism. 
Milewski's defenders, on the other hand, said it was a legitimate question to ask of a man who wanted to become prime minister... 

Then there's Jagmeet Singh, a trained criminal defence lawyer who says he would like to see convictions before commenting on who's responsible. And as long as Singh maintains this position, he can expect to be roasted periodically by those who utterly reject that proposition and insist that it's been proven that Parmar was the mastermind. 
The Air India bombing occurred more than 30 years ago and at this stage, it appears unlikely that anyone else will be charged. 
But it still has the potential to play a role in the 2019 federal election. This is particularly true if Singh's point of view comes under criticism from his Liberal and Conservative opponents, senior Canadian journalists, former B.C. premier Dosanjh, and relatives of deceased passengers. 
The Air India bombing still matters for a multitude of reasons, especially for the painful losses endured by so many Canadian families. Many of them were appalled by Josephson's court ruling in the case involving Malik and Bagri and these relatives likely won't stay silent about a potential prime minister who refuses to condemn Parmar."

Singh changed his tune after the backlash, from the CBC:
After having expressed some doubts, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today he accepts the Air India inquiry's conclusion that Talwinder Singh Parmar was the mastermind behind the deadly mid-air bombing that killed hundreds of Canadians — and he thinks it's inappropriate for some Sikhs to glorify Parmar by displaying his photo.
Despite his more recent statement, there will now always be some who wonder if he harbors terrorist sympathies since he couldn't simply spit this out at the beginning. Telling sign, or rookie mistake?

Post Script:

It's got everything one would expect: a belief that terrorism couldn't happen in 'magical Canada' and incompetence by CSIS and the RCMP. (In fairness to CSIS - it was a new organization, nonetheless it's doubtful results would have been much different otherwise.)

As you reach the middle of the book it gets to be a slog reading about these odious thugs terrorizing the community, murdering people and scamming the government out of millions of dollars. Towards the end it's also difficult to read about them getting away with mass murder.

This has all the hallmarks of a classic Canadian story: racism, incompetence, corruption, and of course no change or improvement after thirty years. Did anyone expect anything less?




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Best of SAC (Shit About Canada)


From the blog "Shit About Canada". My favorite anti-caker blog!


Provinces











Continued fun ...

Heavy Metal Blunder (Grassy Narrows)

Incredulous Canada (Scamming migrants)

Broadband Blues (Internet)

The Cost of Caker Business (Tax avoidance)


The Stupidest Things ...  (Canadians are cheeseballs)

Chemical Valley  (Ontario pollution, incompetence)


Getting Schooled (Canadian denial)

When Canada murdered a bunch of puppies  (self explanatory title)

Great Success with Market Solutions! (god I can't stop LOL)

International Investor's Program (buying citizenship)

Brown sludge water (Tim Hortons)


The Prison Song (Canadian incarceration incompetence)

The Job Fairy (Big Pharma)


The Irving Family (lizard people)

Memorial to 49 Lost Rangers  (failure, again)


Desmarais family (more lizard people)

Drowning is fun (Coast Guard)

Pro-Choice, Anti-success (screwing up abortion too)

The Anthem is Dumb (speaks for itself)

Abe Okpik (proud Inuit man)

Failing at Babies (infant mortality rates)


Mercury on the brain (more poisoning)

No cure for stupid (homeopathy in Ontario)


High on Cruelty (relocating Inuit)

Incomplete coverage (healthcare)

Brown sludge water (Tim Hortons again, what else?)


Amerikkka, y'all are racists (Canadian hypocrisy, racism)


Prime Ministers






I will end it here with this post Amerikkka


This is a long list, but there are a couple hundred posts (and I look forward to many more). 

I think the listed ones lay a good foundation for beginning to understand Canada and cakers.


My hat is off to you, author of this blog.






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Caker Hostage Survey

As I am locked out of my old account, I have recreated the old survey (see results here).

This survey is for any current or former hostages of Canada.

Of course some results will be skewed since some cities and provinces are more populated than others, however it should still give us some rough idea of the worst of the caker kingdom.




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Saskatoon Rants


12 Reasons Why I Hate Saskatoon ...


1. The Climate...

I have to laugh... The people who live here are constantly reassuring themselves about how "great" the climate is here with inane comments like "You know it rains all the time in Vancouver" or "Oh, that terrible humidity in Ontario". My God in heaven, it's below freezing for 7 months of the year and 3 of those months are below -20C. The growing season is only 100 days long, it can freeze anytime of the year and a good part of the "summer" is cold, too.... and the bloody wind... It never stops.


Prey tell, then... Why do 12 million people live in S. Ontario and 3 million in the lower mainland of B.C. if the climates there are so terrible?... And yet Saskatchewan has not been able to get a population of more than a million in 75 years? I think it's penis envy and a huge inferiority complex.

No one wants to live here for this reason alone... No one.

2. The rednecks, lack of culture, lack of people with any taste or class...

Granted, there is lots of money here... rich farmers, rich oil workers... They have big trucks and bigger houses... These people are classless...They listen to country music, shop at Walmart, hock and spit, drink Pilsner beer, wear baseball caps in restaurants, are vulgar and crude and their idea of a fine restaurant is Mano's or The Cave... Yep, paper napkin and family dining at it's best.

Mind you, there are maybe 3 good restaurants in the city...

3.. The isolation...


God, Saskatoon is a million miles from any civilized place or big city... And I don't regard Calgary or Edmonton as either civilized or big... 18 hours to the Twin Cities is your closest link to the civilized, populated world.

4. The crime...

Highest crime rate in Canada.

5. The Aboriginals...

I am tired of all of it.

6. The Fattness...

Outside of the American Deep south, I have never, ever in my life seen so many obese, out of shape people.

7. The Star Phoenix

You call that a newspaper?... What an embarrassment... and no paper on Sunday. I think Saskatoon is the only place in the world without a local, Sunday paper... God, I miss civilization sometimes.

8. The West side...

Poverty, slumlords, crime, arson, post-industrial gloom... Almost every business closed on 20th st. from Ave. A to Ave. H. and the city pours millions into the beautification of this dismal, dangerous hunk of road. Brownfields, abandoned factories (Mitchell's, etc.) Lame and doomed to fail attempts at revitalization (Farmer's Market, The 20th St. Station) in this seedy scumscape.

9 John Gormley and CJWW...

The "voices" of Saskatoon... Good God.

10. Don Atchinson...

Our local version of "Mayor McCheese"

11. Beaten up roads...

My God, our streets look like something out of the Third world, beaten up roadways full of potholes, cracks, frost heaves... Line painting is lame at best.
As I told a visitor to here once who commented on the lack of line painting on the streets "Oh, don't worry... Just keep your vehicle in the ruts in the street and you'll stay in the right lane..."

12. The world's worst drivers?

This huge sense of entitlement (comes with loosers who have aquired wealth and big vehicles), lack of knowledge of road rules, general rudeness, excessive speed and lack of common courtesy.



I moved from Vancouver to Saskatoon last year and my god do I hate this place to its guts.
My parents used to go to college here, and I have always hear about them complainning how bad Saskatoon was. Having lived in Ft Mac for 2 years, I didn't believe them. Until last year, I decided to follow my parents footsteps and come to U of S, biggest mistake of my life thus far.
Worst thing about the city is the people here: Rude, stubborn, lazy and racial discriminating. Crappy city planning comes second. Drivers comes the third (seriously guys, driving a truck doesn't mean you can drive in between lanes/ turn left whenever you want/ tailgating people).
DONT MOVE HERE!!!!!!!


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People in Saskatoon seem to think that their city is better than Regina. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black--Saskatoon easily is as bit a shithole as Regina. Here's why:

1) Everyone drives slower than the retired.
2) Clueless drivers that don’t respect pedestrians, crosswalks, and even traffic lights.
3) Downtown has no real attractions and is dead… all the time.
4) No downtown nightlife.
5) People think Tim Hortons has “good” coffee.
6) They elect people like MP Maurice Vellacot…. year in year out. And then complain about the conservatism of Sask Party MLAs.
7) Home to some of the highest crime rates in Canada.
8) Maybe 3 good restaurants in a sized city that should have 20-30.
9) Can’t sustain a downtown grocery store open but can keep 3 Walmarts PACKED.
10) No gas stations (sorry, the 20th and Idylewild one doesn’t count).
11) There are no public beaches in a city with a river running through it.
12) River swimming is not allowed, due to hydrophobia than actual danger.
13) Road construction projects take weeks, sometimes months, to undertake… where in other cities it would take days.
14) No sidewalks on the busiest part of Circle Drive North.
15) People are incredibly poor tippers… when they tip at all.
16) Pubs and restaurants never cut off or give the boot to drunk patrons… they are allowed to cause as much trouble as they like.
17) Has the slowest service in restaurants anywhere.
18) Frumpily dressed people everywhere.
19) No tourism industry whatsoever.... seeing a Manitoba license plate is even rare.
20) Drop in medical clinics are always backed up and you can wait 2-3 hours to see a doctor in the “Home of Healthcare.”
21) Few signs that private entrepreneurship is encouraged.
22) Excess TV time devoted to farm and crop reports when agriculture makes up less than 10% of the provincial economy.
23) Newscasts devoid of any real newsworthy content.
24) Newscasters dress and look like 80s prom nightmares.
25) Some city streets aren’t swept to clean up road dirt in the spring until… summer.
26) Crappy, expensive to ride public transit system that shuts down too early/runs too infrequently.
27) People frown on public transit as ‘for the poor people who can’t afford a car.”
28) Junk Pontiac Sunfires…. everywhere.
29) No signs of logical civic planning… i.e. they let large lots of downtown real estate sit unused for years (i.e. the old King George Hotel and put a big ugly movie theatre on prime downtown near-waterfront property.
30) The WORST public bus system EVER – people think the bus is for poor people.
31) When the city bus drivers aren’t busy driving over people, they are just plain rude.
32) Crappy roads and potholes that go without repair.
33) Unsynchronized traffic lights on main roads in the city.
34) No bike lanes anywhere…. even though the city has one of the highest number of bike commuters in Canada.
35) Crappy, apathetic service at oh so many retail shops.
36) They can’t think of a better name for historical Victoria Bridge than to call it the “Traffic Bridge.”
37) Poor city planning i.e. traffic lights, crosswalks in poor locations.
38) Insufficient number of garbage cans and maintenance in main areas….as a result, street festivals (i.e. The Fringe) are garbagefests.
39) Overweight people everywhere… and junk food/candy vending machines galore.
40) Drunk driving seems acceptable to many, and the police never have roadblocks to stop them either.
41) You have to pay to park in the Midtown Mall lot… they charge you to go to the mall to spend your money.
42) the malls SUCK—people think the Gap is high end fashion.
43) Native culture is seen as a problem and not celebrated as in other parts of Canada.
44) There is public support for a lobby group sympathetic to the cops that killed Stonechild.
45) Few boutique shops… instead, tons of big ugly box stores.
46) The Star Phoenix is a rag.
47) You can count the number of ethnic food import shops on one hand… sorry, Cheese Warehouse just doesn’t cut it.
48) No specialty wine shops… and shitty liquor store selection.
49) Road lines always need repainting.
50) No rent controls for the home of socialism.
51) People don’t pick up after their dogs—spring should be called shit melt.
52) They charge people to get a pet license for their cats and dogs but never enforce it.
53) All the city firework displays (Canada Day, the Ex) are incredibly lame.
54) City Hall does nothing about the 20th St. problem.
55) The mayor is stupid enough to make racist comments in front of Indians at the First Nations University… and still gets elected by a landslide.


I'm going to have to give you a big internet high five.
I grew up in Prince Albert .. which I assure you is worse to live in than Saskatoon or Regina by far. The only thing better about P.A. is that there are synchronized lights at some locations.
I lived in Calgary for 5 years before I moved to Saskatoon. Calgary is friendly, well thought out, and a pleasure to live in. You can meet people anywhere and find new friends in an instant. People say hi to each other and there are few "clicks". Bringing this attitude back to Saskatoon was not accepted well. People are downright rude. My initial reaction to people here was, "What the hell! Do these people think they are better than everyone?" I've been here for 5 years now and all I hear about are comments like "OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY OF SASKATOON" and "SASKATOON SHINES". Beautiful and shine my ass. 
People don't know how to drive here at all. They don't know the concept of "letting people in" or how to properly signal. It's silly ... people only signal when they actually have a lane to go into. They will never signal to let you know their intentions. I see people all the time cancelling their signal when they realize someone won't let them in. 
Saskatoon's traffic engineering is by far the worst, ever, period. It's actually designed to stop you. red light to red light. No turning arrows. No thought. Just frustration. And, they won't fix a poorly designed intersection. Instead, they will install a red light camera and penalize everyone for their screw up. 
I've read reports of other big cities that saw significant decreases in crime rates by improving the driving conditions. Saskatoon could not be a better truth-proving example of crime being related to driving conditions. We have the highest crime rate in Canada. We also have the worst driving in Canada. Who shines now mother fucker.
Now, if this isn't enough, the diabolical scheming bureaucrats here caused the Saskatoon housing market to reach levels that a city of this status should have never seen. I get a shit wage to drive amongst idiots in a poorly thought out city, at a job I hate, in a city with no life, only to be forced out of renting to buy a $40,000 house that I paid $300,000 for.
Come on Saskatoon. Get with the times. You are 10 years behind.

YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIOUS! EVERYONE HRE IS A CONSERVATIVE, PLAIN, CLOSE MINDED PIECE OF SHIT WHO TRY TO ACT LIKE THERE FROM FUCKING CALGARY. NEWSFLASH BITCHES! YOU AINT! THANK THE FUCK CHRIST IM MOVING TO TORONTO! :D


Saskatoon is a shit whole, there is nothing to do.Downtown is the worst,there is no nightlife but instead people smoking weed. I am getting the hell out of saskatoon as soon as possible.


After two years of living in Regina, I have yet to find one person (not from here) who actually likes it. Every import I've met is just waiting to get out. I am outta here in 2 months and this is the impression of this province I'll be taking with me 1) lack of work ethic. Worst example of this was one major grocery store I went to actually had NO ONE but the managers show up for work that morning. I believe there was a Rider's game the night before. 2) Because of the lack of simple garbage cans in the city, it looks like an urbanized land-fill. 3) Roads??? What roads. You mean those trails that have worn down to the original wagon paths? 4)No snow removal. One gentleman I spoke to used to work for the City. He told me Regina has the most up-to-date equipment in Canada, but that no one knows how to use it - so they don't 5) If I hear "but that's the way it's always been" one more time I'll scream!! 6) No rent control. Landlords can charge what they want for dumps that anywhere else in this country would be condemned by health authorities. And don't bother calling the rentals-man. I tried and was told to pay my $50.00 bucks and maybe they will get around to looking at my complaint in 2 months or so. 7) I no longer have any pots, pans, kettles or coffee pots. The city water here has destroyed them all.

I think you have covered the rest (buses, bad drivers, traffic, bugs, wind, etc)

I will say I truly believe this province has a lot of potential. However, the governments (municipal and provincial) and the people who were born and raised here HATE CHANGE OR PROGRESSION.

Therefore, so long Saskatchewan - wish I could say it was fun instead of "what a colossal waste of two years of my life".


I lived in Saskatoon for 31 years. I found that Saskatoon people are arrogant, Calgary wannabees that think the city is as big as L.A. it is a hick town that has nothing to offer, no opportunities and a pretentious attitude that is not matched by any other city in Canada.


the first two sexual encounter landed me witht he two worst stds (use your sympathetic imagination) you can't find any pot and people will call there brother the hillbilly police officer for broaching the subject. The ethnic drivers the all go to the university own the the calcutta roads in the dump and everyone here is a farmer that stand by drinking 40s is gods way and taking two bong hits must mean your a homosexual satan worshipper. I thought regina was bad i fucking hate living here.it is starkly different in the issues mentioned


I have lived in from Vancouver, London UK and Rome Italy. It is my 3rd year in Saskatoon, i absolutely agree with you 97% of your points. I went as far as to google "why does saskatoon suck" because I am in pain constantly looking at the obese, poorly dressed people roaming the streets and never having anything to do and any place to buy a bottle of wine. Save me.

OMG this place is such a shit hole, i cant wait to leave here and stop wasting my life here. It been seven years and i cant raise my kids in this environment.

It amazes me that Saskatoon's infrastructure continues to get worse yet the people here constantly try to pretend its getting better. Love the pile of scrap that used to be the Victoria Bridge. Love that nearly half a million was spent on lights for it instead of actually repairing it. Love how Circle Dr. South never was finished even close to schedule and will remain that way for almost another year. Love the near useless transit system. Love the worst drivers in Canada and a Police force that seems powerless to do anything about them. Love the horrid restaurants that people actually convince themselves are good. Love the economic boom that people think is real. Love the ridiculous rent and housing costs that are so overinflated. Love the crumbling roads and bridges that need millions to repair. Love the idea of building a new art gallery while the rest of the city fails. Love the smugness of the people here. Love the hatred towards Calgary and Alberta. . I truly wish all the "cosmopolitan" residents of Saskatoon would go to Toronto for a week to see how a real city works.


Just wait till the bank interest rate increases even a small percentage. All the morons that purchased $50.000 for 400K will be walking into the bank and dropping their keys off with the loans manager.


Saskatoon as most agree is a boring shit hole with a bunch of Calgary wannabees, the prople aren't friendly and are too stupid to realize they are living on a so called economy based on credit.


I hate Saska friggin Toon. It sucks living here and it is rattling the shit out of my car. I have created a good job for myself, and work with some pretty good people, but they are still "redneck mentality" 

I can't wait to move my ass back to a real province that knows how to spend my tax dollars on real roads and pay their construction people overtime to take care of potholes and road repair all night long so that the rest of the city can function the next day!
Hey Saskatoon... how about getting rid of street parking so that the snow removal can actually take place.

If Saskatoon would actually ticket people for street parking overnight and get the damn parked cars off of a major roads like 8th street for instance, then maybe this town could grow into a nicely developed "city". At least it would put some cash into the city's pocket for more road repair and some decent parking. The downtown workers are penalized for working downtown by having to pay astronomical parking fees. Think about it Saskatoon, is this not unfair to people who work downtown?? It takes more than a certain "number" of people to create a city.. it takes the right attitude.

I have seen cars turn off of a main street onto a side street in the winter and get caught in the flippin road ruts (that are huge BTW) and take out up to four cars (five including their own) just like that, by being forced to swag back and forth in the slippery ruts. It is friggin scary to drive in those ruts. Wagon wheelers! Sigh!

Three years ago in that major winter storm, the city let their workers sleep and caused the whole of Saskatoon to shut down for business because if you took bus to work to avoid the damn expensive parking downtown core, you were shut out because there was no service for three days!

WTF Good thing everyone here keeps their trustworthy "snowshoes" by the front door so they could at least get their ass to the beer store for their three day supply of beer as that is the only place that got any business then!

How can the Province get ahead when SGI has to pay out claims like that episode I just described above.... and all because the they do not ENFORCE simple things like street parking.

Hell when I first moved here I would be running out to my car freaking out, thinking I was going to be towed if I ran into the convenience store for a minute and parked illegally because I am from a province that doesn't screw around and they do their jobs. Here they are just lazy and lax! 

People still live like "hippies" and think they are so cool... too many yoga studios here and the mindset here is just so meditative that everything seems to be tolerated.
The city stores and business in this hokey town don't know what water is, as the windows are drab with Prairie Dust at all times... so nothing SHINES there. The Bay is an embarrassment to me coming from Toronto... Hell the Bay street store in TO was always so done up and the window dressing divine...

Here they merely stick a manikin in the window on first Avenue and let the dust settle on the lame outfit they dare to display... they have no back drops to make the displays POP and this is a downtown ICON... Ha ha... what a joke... It is The Bay for crying out loud. Should you not display it with PRIDE?

I would say that Saskatoon is 25 years behind in time and needs to invest in it's own "township" BIG TIME in order to gain respect of the residents here.
Also Saskatoon people are so prejudice against the Native's. You just don't see that attitude anymore Saskatoon people. Wake up and get with the times... you should get your asses sued for the way you prejudice against them. Good thing I have set my own sole proprietorship and taken on my own interests for work to build enough to get out of town.
I'll be in the Kawartha's after July 1st, sipping margaritas at the lake C ya


Saskatoon is a fucking shithole. No wonder why the rate crime is so fucking high, people are bored to death. Downtown look like shit and you can see that there is no effort nor will to modernize the goddamn city.

What is fucking absurd is that there is no grocery shop Down Town. So good fucking luck getting grocery if you do not have a car. You will have to go on Broadway to the shitty overpriced stores or take a bus to 8th Street.

The life in Saskatoon is fucking expensive. Everything is expensive. The restaurant, the food, everything.

People here are still stuck in the 18s century when they used to ride horses because they can´t drive for shit.

Overall the people of Saskatoon are rude, ignorants, racists and retarded. Fuck this city.


Saskatoon should be renamed to Imbreed Town.


saskatoon reminds me of a cheap dimestore hick who thinks he's a bad ass only because he's never known any real badasses. its overpriced, over-rated, the locals are sheltered assholes who've never lived in a real city so they dont have anything to compare it to. the city planners and decision makers are a bunch of greedy money grubbing douchebags who raise the cost of living every single fucking year. and people, because they are sheltered hicks with no other frame of reference, keep voting the same leeches into office year after year. im so glad i found this page, bc it validates everything shitty ive experienced in that shitty town. and yes, its fucking RACIST as shit. people know it as that racist town where cops kill natives and get away with it.


I grew up in Saskatoon, then moved away with my family to Regina at the age of fourteen. I moved back to Saskatoon (after living in a few other places around the province) when I was twenty, and after the nostalgia wore off, I realised that Saskatoon really isn't how I remembered it.

I have come to begin loathing this province, and desire greatly to relocate to Vancouver, B.C. but am quite unfortunately stuck in Saskatoon for an unforeseen amount of time due to uncontrollable circumstances (I assist in the care of my younger sister and mother who, due to health issues, have great difficulty when it comes to travel.)

I agree with nearly every single one of your points.

Saskatoon is a blight, an absolute blemish, as is the entire province, to Canada. I am honestly embarrassed to be from the area, and can't wait to get the fuck out before I end up wasting my entire life in the hell hole.

For those of you who find life in Saskatoon, or Saskatchewan, pleasant, good for you. At least you can derive some sort of quality of living out of a dreary and pathetic place. As for me, I now hate it with a passion and should I get the chance to leave, I shall never come back.

TL;DR version:

Fuck Saskatoon and Saskachewan in general.


I have never been more disappointed in humanity. I have lived in many large and small cities and this by far is the worst. Don't bother trying to own nice things, they will get stolen. Your car will be fucked as people have no idea how to drive. The average iq, we won't even go there. I used to think the US was crazy with there gun laws, I now understand. There is no respect for the next person and without saying a million things that have been already said, if your thinking about moving here please think again. Yes it is one of the fastest growing cities in Canada but also one of the easiest places to immigrate to. Crime rates through the roof and trust me, most is not reported. I can't think of a worse place in all of Canada. Not only are the people for the most part an absolute disgrace, it is flat, boring, no night life, nothing to do in day either, cold as fuck and the riders are what ppl get excited about...a cfl team. Yay. Do yourself a favour and never ever even bother visiting. Wow...so sad.


Saskatoon and SK in general are better than many third world countries and we should count our blessings that we can live in such a place. That said, since this is the only thing it has going for it, relatively speaking, it is a piece of shit hell hole compared to the majority of major cities in Canada.

The weather is my chief complaint. Frigid arctic tundra for 7-8 months of the year. Dirty and wet for another 2 months, dusty and mosquito infested for another two, dull and cool for the last. No pretty flowers in the spring, just mud and dirt covering everything left over from the oversanding of streets during the winter, because they refuse to plow the streets and salt on a regular basis. 2 of the 3 months it is acutally warm enough to enjoy the outdoors, it is infested with mosquitos to the point where you cannot enjoy going outside without dousing yourself in bug spray every 10 minutes.
Housing is way overpriced, few big city amenities, festivals are okay but pale in comparison to those in other cities. (Rib fest is three vendors in a field, they close one of the busiest streets down to set up three tables displaying random people's artwork). No club scene, just a bunch of sports bars. Shopping is crappy, parking is non-existent, roads are shit. Its super dry and dusty in the summer and they don't bother paving half the back streets or parking lots. NO TRAFFIC SIGNS ON hundreds of RESIDENTIAL INTERSECTIONS!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!
MALLS suck, only one decent movie theatre. Terrible shopping in general. One superstore with no parking. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


What the fuck is wrong with people from saskatoon???? They are unbelievably close minded, disrespect other cultures and religions, and are essentially living in 18th century attitudes. Unforntanately I have to stay here for a few years. Any tips on dealing with these ignorant assholes!!??


I am glad I found this blog. Everything you say unfortunately is very true. In my 50 years I lived 44 of them in Vancouver. When I moved here I thought I was coming to a place of great opportunity and better house prices. What I came to is 18 century hickville. I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid people are here, and they think I am the stupid one. They argue about everything and think they know everything yet most of them have never been anywhere else except the lake and Regina for the Riders. The downtown is always dead and I felt safer in the downtown eastside of Vancouver than here. The only friends I have met are from Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. They are all planning their escape as am I. You are right, escape is a gas tank away.


Bravo, sir. Everything is spot on, perhaps even worse as you have described. It is certainly getting worse. I'm stuck here another year or so... counting the days until I leave.

I could not be happier to read your post and a lll of the comments. This province is a dump. I actually can't believe anyone willingly lives here. Thank you for showing me that I'm not the only person who hates SK more than I've ever hated anything in my life.


Agreed....Saskatoon is a shithole and most of the people there are losers. I grew up in Saskatoon the first 17 years of my life. As soon as I was able to I moved from redneckville to where some real life was. Vancouver. I have since seen the world a bit and lived in Toronto for 15 years and London UK for 10. Ask any person who has lived in any normal place if they could tolerate what Saskatoon is or if they could live around the narrow minded types in Saskatoon, and they would likely puke. 
Absolutely people with no class totally sheltered from the real world. Very sad.
To the people of Saskatoon, I have news for you. You're the odd balls out...you're nothing special. You are a joke. If you went anywhere else normal...Toronto, London or Los angeles, people there will look at you funny because you are so Unhip and un-with the times. Low class uncultured hicks.
Nice "freeway" system...just saw it recently. Wow impressive. Ha ha ha
Open your hick eyes and see the world a little. I assure you if you do, you will never return as life in all its forms...culture, having fun, opportunity, and comfort is better elsewhere.
Life is too short to live in sub artic conditions with hill billy types. A real joke. LOL LOL funny but sad at the same time. 
What's funny is that most people from Saskatoon think its good???Holy shit...for real?
Sad.
Theres no hope for some people.


I read this list about 5 years ago, haha and it's still true, the city is not making any progress at all. People keep talking some "economy boom" here. I don't know what that is, other than jacked up living expenses to make it look like economy boom. Still below average factory jobs for minimum wage, but the cost of living went through the roof. The roads..haha..if you do own a vehicle, prepare to dish out a lot of extra maintenance cost for shocks, ball joints, even popped tires and bent wheels. This city, for a first world country, is about 20 years behind behind anything comparable, no not Winnipeg or Regina, they are just as bad.
Cheers!


Saskatoon sucks.
I am from Toronto originally and lived in New York for many years.

I lived in Saskatoon for 5 years.
the place is cold, dirty, hard to live in and the landscape SUCKS .
...they'll never leave the3ir good friends.
People there describe themselves as "lifers" LOL

But, the worst thing....the people there are stupid fucking hicks who know nothing.

If they went to New York or LA or London or Paris they'd realize what cultureless, narrow minded idiots they are.

Most of the people in Saskatoon visit las vegas once or twice in their lifetimes and think they have world knowledge.

It's ignorance and knowing no better.
If you put a hundred Saskatoon kids in a room with a hundred kids from normal places like Toronto or Montreal, anyone could tell who the Saskatoon kids are....plain, funny looking, unsophisticated etc.

the funny thing is, most of the people there are so ignorant they don't even know what they are missing...they are lost and out of touch wit the real world.
when people from Saskatoon visit the real world, people stare and wonder why they look so weird and act so funny.

However, that's the way it is and thee is lots of places in the US and Canada like this...generally people too scared to go out and make their own mark in life so they stay with their "friends" in a place like Saskatoon.

A very sad place with very sad people.
so sad that most of them don't realize what losers they really are!


I lived in Saskatoon for many years, moved to Winnipeg and found it to be 10 times the city than Saskatoon was, although far from perfect.

Saskatoon is a vat of shit, poor economy, part time jobs, overpriced housing and everyone thinks they are on the same level as Calgary.


Lol you nailed it. I've never heard of any bike owner keeping the same bike for more than three months before some piece of shit steals it.


I spent a month in Saskatoon recently. I am from Seattle....born and bred.
I've lived in New York and Germany as well.

Saskatoon is a sheltered little hick town and the people are extremely boring....stupid and uncultured in fact.

I never met a single one who could be considered a cosmopolitan person.

Most of its citizens have never been anywhere and the "city" is ugly. It is flat, and it is cold. Some city ha ha. 200k or something like that....with no metro area to speak of what a joke.
When that shit hole ends at the edge of town, that's it for hundreds of miles. Nightmare!

The restaurants are crap but the worst is the people. They know nothing because the most modern place they have been is Calgary or Las Vegas. How amusing!
The people go on about themselves when you talk to them. the average one has absolutely no conversational skills. what losers.

I guess it's cause' they realize they really don't match up to a person who has been around a little, seen the world that is...it makes them uncomfortable and self conscious.

It is like some bible belt place 40 years behind the times. Seriously, the average person from there would be laughed at in the real world.
How the fuck someone could spend their life there is beyond me.

Just my two cents worth...glad I am never going back.


I don't give a single fuck what any of the assholes from here say I have been here for 8 years and had a family besides the family it's been the shittiest 8 years of my 35 years on this planet no joke we moving back to Calgary see ya fuckers!


I agree with all the rants this place is full of 2 faced assholes that act like they are from Beverly Hills and really I hope this place finds its way to a massive sink hole and disappears forever!


The economy was good for a few years, now things are looking really grim. Look at all the office vacancies. The residential vacancy rate is also way up, historically high. This is seriously bad news for this city. We overbuilt. People got greedy, built quick and cheap and now there's too much of it. You could see it coming. Businesses are shutting down. 2nd Ave downtown is hurting. Car culture dominates here: everyone drives, all the time for even the shortest distance. And it's not only because it's cold, it's because of bad city planning and laziness. People are lazy here. We are obese. Fast food chains, fine dining chains, box store chains, all foreign owned chains. The local culture here is so weak. There is a colonial attitude here that everything good must come from outside the province. There is a lack of self esteem here. There is an untidy use of space here. It is an indoor city. People retreat to their homes and to their TVs directly from work.


What ever happened to when that shit hole of a city Saskatoon was called the Paris of the Prairies? *Puke* Omg to the people of Paris France I apologize for denigrating your beautiful city name with this redneck close minded idiotic mentality of a town and thinking we are actually as great as your wonderful and ancient city. This city is where all of the countries' waste goes. If it's corny diarrhea from Toronto or vomit from Vancouver this is the end of the line. This city was created from all of that human waste.


Ha ha, glad I found this post!

I went to Saskatoon for a few months about a year ago.
I was forced into it by my employer for some business interests we have in Western Canada.

I am from London, UK and I have never in all my days seen a miserable little piss hole of a town in my life. The people are so "square" it is not funny....30 years behind the times.

Oh my God!
Restaurants suck, parks suck, but the people are the worst most uncultured hicks I have ever seen. Really uneducated, never been anywhere except Vancover and stupid.
The people in Saskatoon, You start talking to them and the conversation immediately fixes to themselves.
They try to impress you with what they do and where they live and what they have.
What a joke...brag about that place...you kidding me?
Most of them seem fat too....no personal pride in themselves.

Nothing to do there...no world class music, sights, museums, history, nice bars, cool cars, NOTHING! The place is void of all normal things in a real place

They have boats in their garages, motorcycles, and big bellies. LOL!

I say to them, check out London, (or for that matter, Paris or Berlin) and see how NORMAL people live.

Virtually anyone from Saskatoon would stick out in one of these places like a sore thumb in the unsophisticated department.

I spent time in Toronto too....100% improvement on Saskatoon. It is a real city....Saskatoon is a flat ugly boring place with NOTHING to do but drink and read about native crime....oh and get fat too.
Glad I left after 8 weeks of hell...never going back!

Next time the newest guy in the company can have that assignment.


To the assholes complaining about people posting that they dont like saskatchewan: news flash, not everyone sucks your provinces cock like you do so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE THIS PAGE because its a page for people who have better taste than you and have a right to list all the ways saskatchewan sucks...

oh, and dont forget the absolutely fucking terrifying rates of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE thats always being covered up by your "great saskatchewaners" inclduing your pervert mayor don atcheson.

saskatchewan is a shit hole of racist inbred rednecks whose pompous attitudes and belief saskatchewan is "great" are only possible because THEYVE NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE!

and now your provincial douchebag brad wall has also proved even he was only here for the money and to fuck you all up the ass: he got his giant million dollar paycheck and whats the first thing he did? he fucked off lol

and its way better for people to vent on a page than to go off on someone in person, so you can go fuck yourself with your self righteous judgy saskatchewan idiocy


Oh, and there isnt just native crime in saskatoon, theres white crime, white people are fucking corrupt backstabby greedy perverted fucks in saskatchewan, but the racist assholes always cover it up. especially their pedophilia. glad i left that shit hole when i did


Some comment are going a bit hard but I completely agree with the fact the city is boring and ugly.

Saskatoonis don't all have great personalities but i'm not going to say everyone from there is an asshole.

They also believe their city shines. They always say omg we are so lucky we have 4 seasons well no shit. Whole Canada has 4 seasons and so what you can barely tell what season it is! Literally someone i met someone who thought it was winter in freaking Halloween. Quick summary of seasons in Saskatoon: Winter: Cold, ugly and useless snow, harsh winds, dirt and uglyness. Spring: Muddy, rainy and even more ugly with no good plants growing literally just ugly plants growing on their own. Summer: Dry polluted and eveeyrhing too basic and green no good flowers just a boring city with a boring summer but its the best season here. Fall: Wind, unstable weather. Icy roads. 
The downtown looks ugly af! Their tallest tower is 79 meters lol. That sucks for a 200,000 populated city that absolutely has no historic monument for it not get built. The towers look so old and weird too. I have always liked downtowns and take this word for granted Saskatoon has had the worst downtown and belive me not trying to brag but i have visited quite bit of places and Saskatoon has had the worst downtown out of all of em. 
The hospitals are ugly af u feel like you are living in India or something. Packed, old, smelly and a big waiting time. I've been to the hospital and most people have freaking broke their back or something cause they too lazy to do shit other than watching their lame ass riders team lose.

Worst than all these is entertainment in the city. I know alot of people just decide to move to that city after visiting it but Saskatoon and the whole Saskatchewan offers not touristic/entertaining places and still they ditch about not getting a bigger population. Literally the best place they have is these lakes they go to like every week of summer which are again ugly, lame and not modern! Not to forget mosquitoes...

This city has potentials but unfortunately people here are too close minded and curiousless people who just live their bring ass life and don't do exciting shit. If the city cleaned up its ugliness and mudds specially in spring and planned some colorfull flowers, modernized the city stopped expanding so fucking much and just make the their old shitty neighbourhoods a bit nicer and stopped copying the freaking American life stlye oh and also removed the stupid farms that pump up everywhere and fixes the roads and added cool places this city could be like Calgary right now it's comparable to Afghanistan's capital city.


The people here aren't nice. They are rude, and if you disagree with anything anyone says, the response is 'If you don't like it, leave'. I gladly will.
There is nothing to do here but drink and watch some crappy football team. There is no culture, everyone just meanders along with no real direction and are nasty as hell.
They can't drive, like to think that they and Saskatoon are God's gift. To what I have yet to discover and don't think I ever will. Small town Hicksville that is about 50 years behind the rest of the world. Get your heads out of your asses, change your redneck, racist ways and join the rest of the planet. Most pathetic place ever.


Omg this comment thread is making my day! I moved to saskatoon for graduate school, and it has been the worst city I've ever lived in! The school was small minded, stressful and acted like what we were talking about was so important - it wasnt. It was bullshit liberal propaganda and I come from Ontario. The university I went to out west for my bachelors makes university of Saskatchewan look like kindergarten. It was shocking. I developed bad anxiety living in saskatoon and let me tell you why! Not only the stressful vibe in the university for no apparent reason (probably because the profs couldn't get a job anywhere else, so they try to explain their own existence by bullying students which would be considered disgusting at another university) but also because of the social life.
DONT MOVE HERE. nobody will be able to maintain eye contact with you, you won't make any friends. I lived here for two years and I don't have a sinhle girlfriend. I got a boyfriend right when I moved here (not surprising if you take a look around at the women) and it morphed into a domestic violence situation. I seriously thought men knew not to hit and push around women anymore, as everywhere else in Canada it's known that its against the law. Anyways I got in over my head and eventually escaped that relationship. All his friends were red neck introverts who excluded me at social gatherings, and all their girlfriends couldn't talk to me. This place is seriously fucked. I lived near Toronto and Edmonton and saskatoon is the anus of Canada. It finally occurred to me to just screw my lease and move somewhere else. I haven't been able to find a job... Any job... For four months. I can't stand the horrid weather here its just too damn cold, and this is coming from an edmontonian. Sorry to rant! But this place ALMOSY broke my spirit. I just count my lucky stars I didn't get knocked up while here, and I'm lucky to come from somewhere civilized to know this isn't normal. It isnt normal to not have any friends or have people want to make connections with you. In Edmonton you make friends easily and same with Toronto. I honestly hate saskatoon. I had such high hopes! Its a shit hole. Don't even get my started on the drivers, it's really weird. Anyways if you're thinking of coming to the university here DONT. Even when I held a job as a waitress at two different places, nobody would make eye contact with me. This place is asleep. Thanks for all the other comments, I was starting to question my own sanity.


Yes I agree! Living in other parts of Canada, moving here I was shocked. I don't know how anyone can outwardly state they hate natives. How can you hate a certain race? In other cities in Canada, at least the civilized ones it's understood that racism towards natives is disgusting.
Not here. The white people proudly discriminate agsinst them. It broke my heart, they don't deserve that.

I lived in Saskatoon for years and I hated it and still hate it. The cops are pricks they would rather give you a ticket for window tint then get off there lazy asses and go after the punks that kept breaking into my truck six break ins in three years not one arrest. I even caught the one punk red handed and made him stay till the cops showed up and they let him go and told him not to do it again. I had the prick on camera breaking into the truck and the city cops didn't do nothing they actually said they felt sorry for him cause iguess he told the Saskatoon police he was scared of me and felt threaten of me and seen my support be the bridge city boys shirt and assumes I was a gangster. I'm not a gangster I do support the Bridge City Boys but that don't make me a gangster next thing I know I'm in handcuffs and being padded down and being questioned about drugs. Well what the fuck I work a full-time job I don't do drugs I'm a legit blue collar guy and I simply called the Saskatoon police cause some low life is breaking into my truck then I'm in handcuffs and the punk crook walks wtf fuck the Saskatoon police bunch pricks.


Wow ok, I think perhaps some of you didn't give Saskatoon a chance. No it's not for everyone. I don't agree there is nothing to do especially if you are into extreme sports. Just don't expect to win any trophies the competition is very experienced.
For beginners there is burping on the bus and lighting farts on fire. Grade 8s and their super big gulps can blow the rear doors open without even trying. Not bad for guys barely old enough to vote. Lighting farts on fire is more of a home activity, yes I know the mall seems like the obvious place but the security guards work in pairs and with all the cheap mall food they don't even need a lighter. 
Moving on to driving, some of you just don't recognize talent when you see it. My favorite is entering a busy street from just about any side road stop sign or not. You have to wait until the approaching traffic gets close then just pull out without making eye contact. That is why we don't make eye contact we are honing our talents for the next trip behind the wheel.
You people in Toronto or Vancouver that think you are so cool are going to love this next one. We figured out how to make fire. Evolved or what? Once again you will be going up against the best of the best. All you need is a pit in your back yard, some wet wood and a can of gas. FOOMP!! That should take care of any facial hair that got missed lighting farts on fire. 
You think you can take the muffler of your dodge truck get a dog that barks and howls day and night and compete guys good luck. Their exploits are legendary. They figured out wind speed and direction, how many leaves to add and when. Hell they can hospitalize the asthmatic neighbor kids in no time flat. Try that in Vancouver or Toronto and they will throw your ass in jail. 
That covers most of the solo activities but I have to say even I was taken aback by STD guy. This guy is 2 for 2 practicing unsafe sex. My first thought was did he tell the second girl what happened with the first girl? I best leave that one alone I am only assuming he was picking up girls and not working the lanes behind downtown hotels.


I actually feel like I have ptsd from living here. My friend back home reminded me "I can just get in my car and go" and this place is such a soul sucking, low vibe hick town that I was actually brainwashed to forget I could leave. I came here for graduate school and was silenced in the classroom, surrounded by absolute morons, and was completely bewildered to learn that the Saskatchewan concept of grad school is to simply repeat what the professors tell you. I'm being serious. No thinking allowed, just copying and repeating the material. I withdrew. I endured a terrible domestic violence relationship for a year. I didn't know such awful things could happen behind closed doors. All his friends, his family, neighbors knew he physically and emotionally abused me, and nobody offered me any help. They all acted like that was normal, and women are supposed to take it and be quiet. I never felt so alone in my whole life. 
Living in saskatoon feels like living on the moon. I escaped that relationship with the clothes on my back. When people say this province is 40 years behind, they aren't kidding. The way this man treated me was like I was furniture in his house. It terrified me to the bone.

I worked for social services here, and witnessed the horrible racism people have toward natives. I fell in love with my work, and was able to help the communities on 20th Street. But the organization I worked for was toxic as well, hiring their relatives, promoting people who gossiped and had bad work ethic, etc. It blew my mind. Everyone in this city seems like they're asleep. I don't understand. It's like they don't realise there are other cities beyond this one. 
Going to the lakes up north wasn't anything special, you can get that same experience in the river valley in Edmonton, or walking out your door in Ontario. The restaurants in saskatoon were just horrible, there is no culture here. I can't even explain the feeling of being around people who you sense don't care about you at all. It is extremely terrifying. I met people at Starbucks, in the gym, at work, on the LRT in Edmonton who became lifelong friends, inviting me to meet their families, helping me move, coming to get togethers in my home for coffee with other friends. That is not the culture in saskatoon. Visiting and making friends is not what people want to do.

I don't know how to express what I have witnessed here in saskatoon, I really did think it would be like a smaller Edmonton with prairie culture. You go anywhere in Edmonton, there's cowboy hats, hippie flowing dresses. I didn't see anyone who was attractive. I'm sorry I didn't. You go anywhere else and there are attractive people in different parts of Canada. Some of the native people kept themselves looking nice, but the white people were just plain looking. It was so weird.

I had opportunities to do field work at farms in the middle of nowhere, and the people looked like they had been staring out the window for twenty years. I couldn't believe it. Just expressionless and pale. I worked down near Regina for a company and the farmers there only wanted a mine if they got a payout, they didn't even care about their environment.

It blew my mind. No culture. No independent thought. I never made any girlfriends here in 2.5 years. Everywhere else in Canada I lived, I made tens of beloved friends, and enjoyed going for lunch, out to the bars, to their family dinners, etc. The native people I worked with were awesome, and displayed a true sense of humor, strength and practicality. I truly admire saskatoon native people, and I feel sick to my stomach at how racist the white people are to them. Someone commented Saskatchewan is like from the 18th century and I think that's true. Anyone wanting to move here, just don't. You won't built a support network or any friends, and you will truly start to understand that there are parts of Canada that are best left unexplored. What a complete shit hole.


I've lived on both coasts and grew up quite open minded and progressive. Having lived in Saskatchewan for 3 years now, I find myself growing bitter, judgemental and racist. Living on alphabet row I've noticed how careless, rude and self centered the native population is. The white population are also generally rude and close minded. The ever increasing foreign population makes one feel as if they are not in Canada anymore as multiculturalism is destroying Canadian culture and identity. It is creating a tribalistic collection of enclaves which do not integrate. Saskatoon is a shitty place to live for anyone who doesn't buy into intersectional politics, self victimization or LGBTQQIAAP politics. I am really not impressed by the social dynamics, etiquette and crime in this city. The social welfare programs are about the only thing Saskatchewan has going for it if you are not a skilled professional. Perhaps this is partly why it is the way it is. If you encounter an attractive woman, she's probably a golddigger, airhead or prostitute and a majority of other people are frumpy, obese, ugly or queer. 
I look forward to eventually moving out of Saskatchewan, perhaps BC as the nature there is revitalizing and beautiful and i'd rather deal with old asian ladies picking cans at 6am than tweaked out natives creating huge garbage messes when rummaging through dumpsters or breaking into mailboxes or drunkenly fighting and creating domestic disturbances.
Like I said, living here is making me bitter, judgemental and racist. I gotta get my ass outta here pronto.


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