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Saskatoon Rants


12 Reasons Why I Hate Saskatoon ...


1. The Climate...

I have to laugh... The people who live here are constantly reassuring themselves about how "great" the climate is here with inane comments like "You know it rains all the time in Vancouver" or "Oh, that terrible humidity in Ontario". My God in heaven, it's below freezing for 7 months of the year and 3 of those months are below -20C. The growing season is only 100 days long, it can freeze anytime of the year and a good part of the "summer" is cold, too.... and the bloody wind... It never stops.


Prey tell, then... Why do 12 million people live in S. Ontario and 3 million in the lower mainland of B.C. if the climates there are so terrible?... And yet Saskatchewan has not been able to get a population of more than a million in 75 years? I think it's penis envy and a huge inferiority complex.

No one wants to live here for this reason alone... No one.

2. The rednecks, lack of culture, lack of people with any taste or class...

Granted, there is lots of money here... rich farmers, rich oil workers... They have big trucks and bigger houses... These people are classless...They listen to country music, shop at Walmart, hock and spit, drink Pilsner beer, wear baseball caps in restaurants, are vulgar and crude and their idea of a fine restaurant is Mano's or The Cave... Yep, paper napkin and family dining at it's best.

Mind you, there are maybe 3 good restaurants in the city...

3.. The isolation...


God, Saskatoon is a million miles from any civilized place or big city... And I don't regard Calgary or Edmonton as either civilized or big... 18 hours to the Twin Cities is your closest link to the civilized, populated world.

4. The crime...

Highest crime rate in Canada.

5. The Aboriginals...

I am tired of all of it.

6. The Fattness...

Outside of the American Deep south, I have never, ever in my life seen so many obese, out of shape people.

7. The Star Phoenix

You call that a newspaper?... What an embarrassment... and no paper on Sunday. I think Saskatoon is the only place in the world without a local, Sunday paper... God, I miss civilization sometimes.

8. The West side...

Poverty, slumlords, crime, arson, post-industrial gloom... Almost every business closed on 20th st. from Ave. A to Ave. H. and the city pours millions into the beautification of this dismal, dangerous hunk of road. Brownfields, abandoned factories (Mitchell's, etc.) Lame and doomed to fail attempts at revitalization (Farmer's Market, The 20th St. Station) in this seedy scumscape.

9 John Gormley and CJWW...

The "voices" of Saskatoon... Good God.

10. Don Atchinson...

Our local version of "Mayor McCheese"

11. Beaten up roads...

My God, our streets look like something out of the Third world, beaten up roadways full of potholes, cracks, frost heaves... Line painting is lame at best.
As I told a visitor to here once who commented on the lack of line painting on the streets "Oh, don't worry... Just keep your vehicle in the ruts in the street and you'll stay in the right lane..."

12. The world's worst drivers?

This huge sense of entitlement (comes with loosers who have aquired wealth and big vehicles), lack of knowledge of road rules, general rudeness, excessive speed and lack of common courtesy.



I moved from Vancouver to Saskatoon last year and my god do I hate this place to its guts.
My parents used to go to college here, and I have always hear about them complainning how bad Saskatoon was. Having lived in Ft Mac for 2 years, I didn't believe them. Until last year, I decided to follow my parents footsteps and come to U of S, biggest mistake of my life thus far.
Worst thing about the city is the people here: Rude, stubborn, lazy and racial discriminating. Crappy city planning comes second. Drivers comes the third (seriously guys, driving a truck doesn't mean you can drive in between lanes/ turn left whenever you want/ tailgating people).
DONT MOVE HERE!!!!!!!


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People in Saskatoon seem to think that their city is better than Regina. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black--Saskatoon easily is as bit a shithole as Regina. Here's why:

1) Everyone drives slower than the retired.
2) Clueless drivers that don’t respect pedestrians, crosswalks, and even traffic lights.
3) Downtown has no real attractions and is dead… all the time.
4) No downtown nightlife.
5) People think Tim Hortons has “good” coffee.
6) They elect people like MP Maurice Vellacot…. year in year out. And then complain about the conservatism of Sask Party MLAs.
7) Home to some of the highest crime rates in Canada.
8) Maybe 3 good restaurants in a sized city that should have 20-30.
9) Can’t sustain a downtown grocery store open but can keep 3 Walmarts PACKED.
10) No gas stations (sorry, the 20th and Idylewild one doesn’t count).
11) There are no public beaches in a city with a river running through it.
12) River swimming is not allowed, due to hydrophobia than actual danger.
13) Road construction projects take weeks, sometimes months, to undertake… where in other cities it would take days.
14) No sidewalks on the busiest part of Circle Drive North.
15) People are incredibly poor tippers… when they tip at all.
16) Pubs and restaurants never cut off or give the boot to drunk patrons… they are allowed to cause as much trouble as they like.
17) Has the slowest service in restaurants anywhere.
18) Frumpily dressed people everywhere.
19) No tourism industry whatsoever.... seeing a Manitoba license plate is even rare.
20) Drop in medical clinics are always backed up and you can wait 2-3 hours to see a doctor in the “Home of Healthcare.”
21) Few signs that private entrepreneurship is encouraged.
22) Excess TV time devoted to farm and crop reports when agriculture makes up less than 10% of the provincial economy.
23) Newscasts devoid of any real newsworthy content.
24) Newscasters dress and look like 80s prom nightmares.
25) Some city streets aren’t swept to clean up road dirt in the spring until… summer.
26) Crappy, expensive to ride public transit system that shuts down too early/runs too infrequently.
27) People frown on public transit as ‘for the poor people who can’t afford a car.”
28) Junk Pontiac Sunfires…. everywhere.
29) No signs of logical civic planning… i.e. they let large lots of downtown real estate sit unused for years (i.e. the old King George Hotel and put a big ugly movie theatre on prime downtown near-waterfront property.
30) The WORST public bus system EVER – people think the bus is for poor people.
31) When the city bus drivers aren’t busy driving over people, they are just plain rude.
32) Crappy roads and potholes that go without repair.
33) Unsynchronized traffic lights on main roads in the city.
34) No bike lanes anywhere…. even though the city has one of the highest number of bike commuters in Canada.
35) Crappy, apathetic service at oh so many retail shops.
36) They can’t think of a better name for historical Victoria Bridge than to call it the “Traffic Bridge.”
37) Poor city planning i.e. traffic lights, crosswalks in poor locations.
38) Insufficient number of garbage cans and maintenance in main areas….as a result, street festivals (i.e. The Fringe) are garbagefests.
39) Overweight people everywhere… and junk food/candy vending machines galore.
40) Drunk driving seems acceptable to many, and the police never have roadblocks to stop them either.
41) You have to pay to park in the Midtown Mall lot… they charge you to go to the mall to spend your money.
42) the malls SUCK—people think the Gap is high end fashion.
43) Native culture is seen as a problem and not celebrated as in other parts of Canada.
44) There is public support for a lobby group sympathetic to the cops that killed Stonechild.
45) Few boutique shops… instead, tons of big ugly box stores.
46) The Star Phoenix is a rag.
47) You can count the number of ethnic food import shops on one hand… sorry, Cheese Warehouse just doesn’t cut it.
48) No specialty wine shops… and shitty liquor store selection.
49) Road lines always need repainting.
50) No rent controls for the home of socialism.
51) People don’t pick up after their dogs—spring should be called shit melt.
52) They charge people to get a pet license for their cats and dogs but never enforce it.
53) All the city firework displays (Canada Day, the Ex) are incredibly lame.
54) City Hall does nothing about the 20th St. problem.
55) The mayor is stupid enough to make racist comments in front of Indians at the First Nations University… and still gets elected by a landslide.


I'm going to have to give you a big internet high five.
I grew up in Prince Albert .. which I assure you is worse to live in than Saskatoon or Regina by far. The only thing better about P.A. is that there are synchronized lights at some locations.
I lived in Calgary for 5 years before I moved to Saskatoon. Calgary is friendly, well thought out, and a pleasure to live in. You can meet people anywhere and find new friends in an instant. People say hi to each other and there are few "clicks". Bringing this attitude back to Saskatoon was not accepted well. People are downright rude. My initial reaction to people here was, "What the hell! Do these people think they are better than everyone?" I've been here for 5 years now and all I hear about are comments like "OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY OF SASKATOON" and "SASKATOON SHINES". Beautiful and shine my ass. 
People don't know how to drive here at all. They don't know the concept of "letting people in" or how to properly signal. It's silly ... people only signal when they actually have a lane to go into. They will never signal to let you know their intentions. I see people all the time cancelling their signal when they realize someone won't let them in. 
Saskatoon's traffic engineering is by far the worst, ever, period. It's actually designed to stop you. red light to red light. No turning arrows. No thought. Just frustration. And, they won't fix a poorly designed intersection. Instead, they will install a red light camera and penalize everyone for their screw up. 
I've read reports of other big cities that saw significant decreases in crime rates by improving the driving conditions. Saskatoon could not be a better truth-proving example of crime being related to driving conditions. We have the highest crime rate in Canada. We also have the worst driving in Canada. Who shines now mother fucker.
Now, if this isn't enough, the diabolical scheming bureaucrats here caused the Saskatoon housing market to reach levels that a city of this status should have never seen. I get a shit wage to drive amongst idiots in a poorly thought out city, at a job I hate, in a city with no life, only to be forced out of renting to buy a $40,000 house that I paid $300,000 for.
Come on Saskatoon. Get with the times. You are 10 years behind.

YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIOUS! EVERYONE HRE IS A CONSERVATIVE, PLAIN, CLOSE MINDED PIECE OF SHIT WHO TRY TO ACT LIKE THERE FROM FUCKING CALGARY. NEWSFLASH BITCHES! YOU AINT! THANK THE FUCK CHRIST IM MOVING TO TORONTO! :D


Saskatoon is a shit whole, there is nothing to do.Downtown is the worst,there is no nightlife but instead people smoking weed. I am getting the hell out of saskatoon as soon as possible.


After two years of living in Regina, I have yet to find one person (not from here) who actually likes it. Every import I've met is just waiting to get out. I am outta here in 2 months and this is the impression of this province I'll be taking with me 1) lack of work ethic. Worst example of this was one major grocery store I went to actually had NO ONE but the managers show up for work that morning. I believe there was a Rider's game the night before. 2) Because of the lack of simple garbage cans in the city, it looks like an urbanized land-fill. 3) Roads??? What roads. You mean those trails that have worn down to the original wagon paths? 4)No snow removal. One gentleman I spoke to used to work for the City. He told me Regina has the most up-to-date equipment in Canada, but that no one knows how to use it - so they don't 5) If I hear "but that's the way it's always been" one more time I'll scream!! 6) No rent control. Landlords can charge what they want for dumps that anywhere else in this country would be condemned by health authorities. And don't bother calling the rentals-man. I tried and was told to pay my $50.00 bucks and maybe they will get around to looking at my complaint in 2 months or so. 7) I no longer have any pots, pans, kettles or coffee pots. The city water here has destroyed them all.

I think you have covered the rest (buses, bad drivers, traffic, bugs, wind, etc)

I will say I truly believe this province has a lot of potential. However, the governments (municipal and provincial) and the people who were born and raised here HATE CHANGE OR PROGRESSION.

Therefore, so long Saskatchewan - wish I could say it was fun instead of "what a colossal waste of two years of my life".


I lived in Saskatoon for 31 years. I found that Saskatoon people are arrogant, Calgary wannabees that think the city is as big as L.A. it is a hick town that has nothing to offer, no opportunities and a pretentious attitude that is not matched by any other city in Canada.


the first two sexual encounter landed me witht he two worst stds (use your sympathetic imagination) you can't find any pot and people will call there brother the hillbilly police officer for broaching the subject. The ethnic drivers the all go to the university own the the calcutta roads in the dump and everyone here is a farmer that stand by drinking 40s is gods way and taking two bong hits must mean your a homosexual satan worshipper. I thought regina was bad i fucking hate living here.it is starkly different in the issues mentioned


I have lived in from Vancouver, London UK and Rome Italy. It is my 3rd year in Saskatoon, i absolutely agree with you 97% of your points. I went as far as to google "why does saskatoon suck" because I am in pain constantly looking at the obese, poorly dressed people roaming the streets and never having anything to do and any place to buy a bottle of wine. Save me.

OMG this place is such a shit hole, i cant wait to leave here and stop wasting my life here. It been seven years and i cant raise my kids in this environment.

It amazes me that Saskatoon's infrastructure continues to get worse yet the people here constantly try to pretend its getting better. Love the pile of scrap that used to be the Victoria Bridge. Love that nearly half a million was spent on lights for it instead of actually repairing it. Love how Circle Dr. South never was finished even close to schedule and will remain that way for almost another year. Love the near useless transit system. Love the worst drivers in Canada and a Police force that seems powerless to do anything about them. Love the horrid restaurants that people actually convince themselves are good. Love the economic boom that people think is real. Love the ridiculous rent and housing costs that are so overinflated. Love the crumbling roads and bridges that need millions to repair. Love the idea of building a new art gallery while the rest of the city fails. Love the smugness of the people here. Love the hatred towards Calgary and Alberta. . I truly wish all the "cosmopolitan" residents of Saskatoon would go to Toronto for a week to see how a real city works.


Just wait till the bank interest rate increases even a small percentage. All the morons that purchased $50.000 for 400K will be walking into the bank and dropping their keys off with the loans manager.


Saskatoon as most agree is a boring shit hole with a bunch of Calgary wannabees, the prople aren't friendly and are too stupid to realize they are living on a so called economy based on credit.


I hate Saska friggin Toon. It sucks living here and it is rattling the shit out of my car. I have created a good job for myself, and work with some pretty good people, but they are still "redneck mentality" 

I can't wait to move my ass back to a real province that knows how to spend my tax dollars on real roads and pay their construction people overtime to take care of potholes and road repair all night long so that the rest of the city can function the next day!
Hey Saskatoon... how about getting rid of street parking so that the snow removal can actually take place.

If Saskatoon would actually ticket people for street parking overnight and get the damn parked cars off of a major roads like 8th street for instance, then maybe this town could grow into a nicely developed "city". At least it would put some cash into the city's pocket for more road repair and some decent parking. The downtown workers are penalized for working downtown by having to pay astronomical parking fees. Think about it Saskatoon, is this not unfair to people who work downtown?? It takes more than a certain "number" of people to create a city.. it takes the right attitude.

I have seen cars turn off of a main street onto a side street in the winter and get caught in the flippin road ruts (that are huge BTW) and take out up to four cars (five including their own) just like that, by being forced to swag back and forth in the slippery ruts. It is friggin scary to drive in those ruts. Wagon wheelers! Sigh!

Three years ago in that major winter storm, the city let their workers sleep and caused the whole of Saskatoon to shut down for business because if you took bus to work to avoid the damn expensive parking downtown core, you were shut out because there was no service for three days!

WTF Good thing everyone here keeps their trustworthy "snowshoes" by the front door so they could at least get their ass to the beer store for their three day supply of beer as that is the only place that got any business then!

How can the Province get ahead when SGI has to pay out claims like that episode I just described above.... and all because the they do not ENFORCE simple things like street parking.

Hell when I first moved here I would be running out to my car freaking out, thinking I was going to be towed if I ran into the convenience store for a minute and parked illegally because I am from a province that doesn't screw around and they do their jobs. Here they are just lazy and lax! 

People still live like "hippies" and think they are so cool... too many yoga studios here and the mindset here is just so meditative that everything seems to be tolerated.
The city stores and business in this hokey town don't know what water is, as the windows are drab with Prairie Dust at all times... so nothing SHINES there. The Bay is an embarrassment to me coming from Toronto... Hell the Bay street store in TO was always so done up and the window dressing divine...

Here they merely stick a manikin in the window on first Avenue and let the dust settle on the lame outfit they dare to display... they have no back drops to make the displays POP and this is a downtown ICON... Ha ha... what a joke... It is The Bay for crying out loud. Should you not display it with PRIDE?

I would say that Saskatoon is 25 years behind in time and needs to invest in it's own "township" BIG TIME in order to gain respect of the residents here.
Also Saskatoon people are so prejudice against the Native's. You just don't see that attitude anymore Saskatoon people. Wake up and get with the times... you should get your asses sued for the way you prejudice against them. Good thing I have set my own sole proprietorship and taken on my own interests for work to build enough to get out of town.
I'll be in the Kawartha's after July 1st, sipping margaritas at the lake C ya


Saskatoon is a fucking shithole. No wonder why the rate crime is so fucking high, people are bored to death. Downtown look like shit and you can see that there is no effort nor will to modernize the goddamn city.

What is fucking absurd is that there is no grocery shop Down Town. So good fucking luck getting grocery if you do not have a car. You will have to go on Broadway to the shitty overpriced stores or take a bus to 8th Street.

The life in Saskatoon is fucking expensive. Everything is expensive. The restaurant, the food, everything.

People here are still stuck in the 18s century when they used to ride horses because they can´t drive for shit.

Overall the people of Saskatoon are rude, ignorants, racists and retarded. Fuck this city.


Saskatoon should be renamed to Imbreed Town.


saskatoon reminds me of a cheap dimestore hick who thinks he's a bad ass only because he's never known any real badasses. its overpriced, over-rated, the locals are sheltered assholes who've never lived in a real city so they dont have anything to compare it to. the city planners and decision makers are a bunch of greedy money grubbing douchebags who raise the cost of living every single fucking year. and people, because they are sheltered hicks with no other frame of reference, keep voting the same leeches into office year after year. im so glad i found this page, bc it validates everything shitty ive experienced in that shitty town. and yes, its fucking RACIST as shit. people know it as that racist town where cops kill natives and get away with it.


I grew up in Saskatoon, then moved away with my family to Regina at the age of fourteen. I moved back to Saskatoon (after living in a few other places around the province) when I was twenty, and after the nostalgia wore off, I realised that Saskatoon really isn't how I remembered it.

I have come to begin loathing this province, and desire greatly to relocate to Vancouver, B.C. but am quite unfortunately stuck in Saskatoon for an unforeseen amount of time due to uncontrollable circumstances (I assist in the care of my younger sister and mother who, due to health issues, have great difficulty when it comes to travel.)

I agree with nearly every single one of your points.

Saskatoon is a blight, an absolute blemish, as is the entire province, to Canada. I am honestly embarrassed to be from the area, and can't wait to get the fuck out before I end up wasting my entire life in the hell hole.

For those of you who find life in Saskatoon, or Saskatchewan, pleasant, good for you. At least you can derive some sort of quality of living out of a dreary and pathetic place. As for me, I now hate it with a passion and should I get the chance to leave, I shall never come back.

TL;DR version:

Fuck Saskatoon and Saskachewan in general.


I have never been more disappointed in humanity. I have lived in many large and small cities and this by far is the worst. Don't bother trying to own nice things, they will get stolen. Your car will be fucked as people have no idea how to drive. The average iq, we won't even go there. I used to think the US was crazy with there gun laws, I now understand. There is no respect for the next person and without saying a million things that have been already said, if your thinking about moving here please think again. Yes it is one of the fastest growing cities in Canada but also one of the easiest places to immigrate to. Crime rates through the roof and trust me, most is not reported. I can't think of a worse place in all of Canada. Not only are the people for the most part an absolute disgrace, it is flat, boring, no night life, nothing to do in day either, cold as fuck and the riders are what ppl get excited about...a cfl team. Yay. Do yourself a favour and never ever even bother visiting. Wow...so sad.


Saskatoon and SK in general are better than many third world countries and we should count our blessings that we can live in such a place. That said, since this is the only thing it has going for it, relatively speaking, it is a piece of shit hell hole compared to the majority of major cities in Canada.

The weather is my chief complaint. Frigid arctic tundra for 7-8 months of the year. Dirty and wet for another 2 months, dusty and mosquito infested for another two, dull and cool for the last. No pretty flowers in the spring, just mud and dirt covering everything left over from the oversanding of streets during the winter, because they refuse to plow the streets and salt on a regular basis. 2 of the 3 months it is acutally warm enough to enjoy the outdoors, it is infested with mosquitos to the point where you cannot enjoy going outside without dousing yourself in bug spray every 10 minutes.
Housing is way overpriced, few big city amenities, festivals are okay but pale in comparison to those in other cities. (Rib fest is three vendors in a field, they close one of the busiest streets down to set up three tables displaying random people's artwork). No club scene, just a bunch of sports bars. Shopping is crappy, parking is non-existent, roads are shit. Its super dry and dusty in the summer and they don't bother paving half the back streets or parking lots. NO TRAFFIC SIGNS ON hundreds of RESIDENTIAL INTERSECTIONS!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!
MALLS suck, only one decent movie theatre. Terrible shopping in general. One superstore with no parking. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


What the fuck is wrong with people from saskatoon???? They are unbelievably close minded, disrespect other cultures and religions, and are essentially living in 18th century attitudes. Unforntanately I have to stay here for a few years. Any tips on dealing with these ignorant assholes!!??


I am glad I found this blog. Everything you say unfortunately is very true. In my 50 years I lived 44 of them in Vancouver. When I moved here I thought I was coming to a place of great opportunity and better house prices. What I came to is 18 century hickville. I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid people are here, and they think I am the stupid one. They argue about everything and think they know everything yet most of them have never been anywhere else except the lake and Regina for the Riders. The downtown is always dead and I felt safer in the downtown eastside of Vancouver than here. The only friends I have met are from Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. They are all planning their escape as am I. You are right, escape is a gas tank away.


Bravo, sir. Everything is spot on, perhaps even worse as you have described. It is certainly getting worse. I'm stuck here another year or so... counting the days until I leave.

I could not be happier to read your post and a lll of the comments. This province is a dump. I actually can't believe anyone willingly lives here. Thank you for showing me that I'm not the only person who hates SK more than I've ever hated anything in my life.


Agreed....Saskatoon is a shithole and most of the people there are losers. I grew up in Saskatoon the first 17 years of my life. As soon as I was able to I moved from redneckville to where some real life was. Vancouver. I have since seen the world a bit and lived in Toronto for 15 years and London UK for 10. Ask any person who has lived in any normal place if they could tolerate what Saskatoon is or if they could live around the narrow minded types in Saskatoon, and they would likely puke. 
Absolutely people with no class totally sheltered from the real world. Very sad.
To the people of Saskatoon, I have news for you. You're the odd balls out...you're nothing special. You are a joke. If you went anywhere else normal...Toronto, London or Los angeles, people there will look at you funny because you are so Unhip and un-with the times. Low class uncultured hicks.
Nice "freeway" system...just saw it recently. Wow impressive. Ha ha ha
Open your hick eyes and see the world a little. I assure you if you do, you will never return as life in all its forms...culture, having fun, opportunity, and comfort is better elsewhere.
Life is too short to live in sub artic conditions with hill billy types. A real joke. LOL LOL funny but sad at the same time. 
What's funny is that most people from Saskatoon think its good???Holy shit...for real?
Sad.
Theres no hope for some people.


I read this list about 5 years ago, haha and it's still true, the city is not making any progress at all. People keep talking some "economy boom" here. I don't know what that is, other than jacked up living expenses to make it look like economy boom. Still below average factory jobs for minimum wage, but the cost of living went through the roof. The roads..haha..if you do own a vehicle, prepare to dish out a lot of extra maintenance cost for shocks, ball joints, even popped tires and bent wheels. This city, for a first world country, is about 20 years behind behind anything comparable, no not Winnipeg or Regina, they are just as bad.
Cheers!


Saskatoon sucks.
I am from Toronto originally and lived in New York for many years.

I lived in Saskatoon for 5 years.
the place is cold, dirty, hard to live in and the landscape SUCKS .
...they'll never leave the3ir good friends.
People there describe themselves as "lifers" LOL

But, the worst thing....the people there are stupid fucking hicks who know nothing.

If they went to New York or LA or London or Paris they'd realize what cultureless, narrow minded idiots they are.

Most of the people in Saskatoon visit las vegas once or twice in their lifetimes and think they have world knowledge.

It's ignorance and knowing no better.
If you put a hundred Saskatoon kids in a room with a hundred kids from normal places like Toronto or Montreal, anyone could tell who the Saskatoon kids are....plain, funny looking, unsophisticated etc.

the funny thing is, most of the people there are so ignorant they don't even know what they are missing...they are lost and out of touch wit the real world.
when people from Saskatoon visit the real world, people stare and wonder why they look so weird and act so funny.

However, that's the way it is and thee is lots of places in the US and Canada like this...generally people too scared to go out and make their own mark in life so they stay with their "friends" in a place like Saskatoon.

A very sad place with very sad people.
so sad that most of them don't realize what losers they really are!


I lived in Saskatoon for many years, moved to Winnipeg and found it to be 10 times the city than Saskatoon was, although far from perfect.

Saskatoon is a vat of shit, poor economy, part time jobs, overpriced housing and everyone thinks they are on the same level as Calgary.


Lol you nailed it. I've never heard of any bike owner keeping the same bike for more than three months before some piece of shit steals it.


I spent a month in Saskatoon recently. I am from Seattle....born and bred.
I've lived in New York and Germany as well.

Saskatoon is a sheltered little hick town and the people are extremely boring....stupid and uncultured in fact.

I never met a single one who could be considered a cosmopolitan person.

Most of its citizens have never been anywhere and the "city" is ugly. It is flat, and it is cold. Some city ha ha. 200k or something like that....with no metro area to speak of what a joke.
When that shit hole ends at the edge of town, that's it for hundreds of miles. Nightmare!

The restaurants are crap but the worst is the people. They know nothing because the most modern place they have been is Calgary or Las Vegas. How amusing!
The people go on about themselves when you talk to them. the average one has absolutely no conversational skills. what losers.

I guess it's cause' they realize they really don't match up to a person who has been around a little, seen the world that is...it makes them uncomfortable and self conscious.

It is like some bible belt place 40 years behind the times. Seriously, the average person from there would be laughed at in the real world.
How the fuck someone could spend their life there is beyond me.

Just my two cents worth...glad I am never going back.


I don't give a single fuck what any of the assholes from here say I have been here for 8 years and had a family besides the family it's been the shittiest 8 years of my 35 years on this planet no joke we moving back to Calgary see ya fuckers!


I agree with all the rants this place is full of 2 faced assholes that act like they are from Beverly Hills and really I hope this place finds its way to a massive sink hole and disappears forever!


The economy was good for a few years, now things are looking really grim. Look at all the office vacancies. The residential vacancy rate is also way up, historically high. This is seriously bad news for this city. We overbuilt. People got greedy, built quick and cheap and now there's too much of it. You could see it coming. Businesses are shutting down. 2nd Ave downtown is hurting. Car culture dominates here: everyone drives, all the time for even the shortest distance. And it's not only because it's cold, it's because of bad city planning and laziness. People are lazy here. We are obese. Fast food chains, fine dining chains, box store chains, all foreign owned chains. The local culture here is so weak. There is a colonial attitude here that everything good must come from outside the province. There is a lack of self esteem here. There is an untidy use of space here. It is an indoor city. People retreat to their homes and to their TVs directly from work.


What ever happened to when that shit hole of a city Saskatoon was called the Paris of the Prairies? *Puke* Omg to the people of Paris France I apologize for denigrating your beautiful city name with this redneck close minded idiotic mentality of a town and thinking we are actually as great as your wonderful and ancient city. This city is where all of the countries' waste goes. If it's corny diarrhea from Toronto or vomit from Vancouver this is the end of the line. This city was created from all of that human waste.


Ha ha, glad I found this post!

I went to Saskatoon for a few months about a year ago.
I was forced into it by my employer for some business interests we have in Western Canada.

I am from London, UK and I have never in all my days seen a miserable little piss hole of a town in my life. The people are so "square" it is not funny....30 years behind the times.

Oh my God!
Restaurants suck, parks suck, but the people are the worst most uncultured hicks I have ever seen. Really uneducated, never been anywhere except Vancover and stupid.
The people in Saskatoon, You start talking to them and the conversation immediately fixes to themselves.
They try to impress you with what they do and where they live and what they have.
What a joke...brag about that place...you kidding me?
Most of them seem fat too....no personal pride in themselves.

Nothing to do there...no world class music, sights, museums, history, nice bars, cool cars, NOTHING! The place is void of all normal things in a real place

They have boats in their garages, motorcycles, and big bellies. LOL!

I say to them, check out London, (or for that matter, Paris or Berlin) and see how NORMAL people live.

Virtually anyone from Saskatoon would stick out in one of these places like a sore thumb in the unsophisticated department.

I spent time in Toronto too....100% improvement on Saskatoon. It is a real city....Saskatoon is a flat ugly boring place with NOTHING to do but drink and read about native crime....oh and get fat too.
Glad I left after 8 weeks of hell...never going back!

Next time the newest guy in the company can have that assignment.


To the assholes complaining about people posting that they dont like saskatchewan: news flash, not everyone sucks your provinces cock like you do so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE THIS PAGE because its a page for people who have better taste than you and have a right to list all the ways saskatchewan sucks...

oh, and dont forget the absolutely fucking terrifying rates of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE thats always being covered up by your "great saskatchewaners" inclduing your pervert mayor don atcheson.

saskatchewan is a shit hole of racist inbred rednecks whose pompous attitudes and belief saskatchewan is "great" are only possible because THEYVE NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE!

and now your provincial douchebag brad wall has also proved even he was only here for the money and to fuck you all up the ass: he got his giant million dollar paycheck and whats the first thing he did? he fucked off lol

and its way better for people to vent on a page than to go off on someone in person, so you can go fuck yourself with your self righteous judgy saskatchewan idiocy


Oh, and there isnt just native crime in saskatoon, theres white crime, white people are fucking corrupt backstabby greedy perverted fucks in saskatchewan, but the racist assholes always cover it up. especially their pedophilia. glad i left that shit hole when i did


Some comment are going a bit hard but I completely agree with the fact the city is boring and ugly.

Saskatoonis don't all have great personalities but i'm not going to say everyone from there is an asshole.

They also believe their city shines. They always say omg we are so lucky we have 4 seasons well no shit. Whole Canada has 4 seasons and so what you can barely tell what season it is! Literally someone i met someone who thought it was winter in freaking Halloween. Quick summary of seasons in Saskatoon: Winter: Cold, ugly and useless snow, harsh winds, dirt and uglyness. Spring: Muddy, rainy and even more ugly with no good plants growing literally just ugly plants growing on their own. Summer: Dry polluted and eveeyrhing too basic and green no good flowers just a boring city with a boring summer but its the best season here. Fall: Wind, unstable weather. Icy roads. 
The downtown looks ugly af! Their tallest tower is 79 meters lol. That sucks for a 200,000 populated city that absolutely has no historic monument for it not get built. The towers look so old and weird too. I have always liked downtowns and take this word for granted Saskatoon has had the worst downtown and belive me not trying to brag but i have visited quite bit of places and Saskatoon has had the worst downtown out of all of em. 
The hospitals are ugly af u feel like you are living in India or something. Packed, old, smelly and a big waiting time. I've been to the hospital and most people have freaking broke their back or something cause they too lazy to do shit other than watching their lame ass riders team lose.

Worst than all these is entertainment in the city. I know alot of people just decide to move to that city after visiting it but Saskatoon and the whole Saskatchewan offers not touristic/entertaining places and still they ditch about not getting a bigger population. Literally the best place they have is these lakes they go to like every week of summer which are again ugly, lame and not modern! Not to forget mosquitoes...

This city has potentials but unfortunately people here are too close minded and curiousless people who just live their bring ass life and don't do exciting shit. If the city cleaned up its ugliness and mudds specially in spring and planned some colorfull flowers, modernized the city stopped expanding so fucking much and just make the their old shitty neighbourhoods a bit nicer and stopped copying the freaking American life stlye oh and also removed the stupid farms that pump up everywhere and fixes the roads and added cool places this city could be like Calgary right now it's comparable to Afghanistan's capital city.


The people here aren't nice. They are rude, and if you disagree with anything anyone says, the response is 'If you don't like it, leave'. I gladly will.
There is nothing to do here but drink and watch some crappy football team. There is no culture, everyone just meanders along with no real direction and are nasty as hell.
They can't drive, like to think that they and Saskatoon are God's gift. To what I have yet to discover and don't think I ever will. Small town Hicksville that is about 50 years behind the rest of the world. Get your heads out of your asses, change your redneck, racist ways and join the rest of the planet. Most pathetic place ever.


Omg this comment thread is making my day! I moved to saskatoon for graduate school, and it has been the worst city I've ever lived in! The school was small minded, stressful and acted like what we were talking about was so important - it wasnt. It was bullshit liberal propaganda and I come from Ontario. The university I went to out west for my bachelors makes university of Saskatchewan look like kindergarten. It was shocking. I developed bad anxiety living in saskatoon and let me tell you why! Not only the stressful vibe in the university for no apparent reason (probably because the profs couldn't get a job anywhere else, so they try to explain their own existence by bullying students which would be considered disgusting at another university) but also because of the social life.
DONT MOVE HERE. nobody will be able to maintain eye contact with you, you won't make any friends. I lived here for two years and I don't have a sinhle girlfriend. I got a boyfriend right when I moved here (not surprising if you take a look around at the women) and it morphed into a domestic violence situation. I seriously thought men knew not to hit and push around women anymore, as everywhere else in Canada it's known that its against the law. Anyways I got in over my head and eventually escaped that relationship. All his friends were red neck introverts who excluded me at social gatherings, and all their girlfriends couldn't talk to me. This place is seriously fucked. I lived near Toronto and Edmonton and saskatoon is the anus of Canada. It finally occurred to me to just screw my lease and move somewhere else. I haven't been able to find a job... Any job... For four months. I can't stand the horrid weather here its just too damn cold, and this is coming from an edmontonian. Sorry to rant! But this place ALMOSY broke my spirit. I just count my lucky stars I didn't get knocked up while here, and I'm lucky to come from somewhere civilized to know this isn't normal. It isnt normal to not have any friends or have people want to make connections with you. In Edmonton you make friends easily and same with Toronto. I honestly hate saskatoon. I had such high hopes! Its a shit hole. Don't even get my started on the drivers, it's really weird. Anyways if you're thinking of coming to the university here DONT. Even when I held a job as a waitress at two different places, nobody would make eye contact with me. This place is asleep. Thanks for all the other comments, I was starting to question my own sanity.


Yes I agree! Living in other parts of Canada, moving here I was shocked. I don't know how anyone can outwardly state they hate natives. How can you hate a certain race? In other cities in Canada, at least the civilized ones it's understood that racism towards natives is disgusting.
Not here. The white people proudly discriminate agsinst them. It broke my heart, they don't deserve that.

I lived in Saskatoon for years and I hated it and still hate it. The cops are pricks they would rather give you a ticket for window tint then get off there lazy asses and go after the punks that kept breaking into my truck six break ins in three years not one arrest. I even caught the one punk red handed and made him stay till the cops showed up and they let him go and told him not to do it again. I had the prick on camera breaking into the truck and the city cops didn't do nothing they actually said they felt sorry for him cause iguess he told the Saskatoon police he was scared of me and felt threaten of me and seen my support be the bridge city boys shirt and assumes I was a gangster. I'm not a gangster I do support the Bridge City Boys but that don't make me a gangster next thing I know I'm in handcuffs and being padded down and being questioned about drugs. Well what the fuck I work a full-time job I don't do drugs I'm a legit blue collar guy and I simply called the Saskatoon police cause some low life is breaking into my truck then I'm in handcuffs and the punk crook walks wtf fuck the Saskatoon police bunch pricks.


Wow ok, I think perhaps some of you didn't give Saskatoon a chance. No it's not for everyone. I don't agree there is nothing to do especially if you are into extreme sports. Just don't expect to win any trophies the competition is very experienced.
For beginners there is burping on the bus and lighting farts on fire. Grade 8s and their super big gulps can blow the rear doors open without even trying. Not bad for guys barely old enough to vote. Lighting farts on fire is more of a home activity, yes I know the mall seems like the obvious place but the security guards work in pairs and with all the cheap mall food they don't even need a lighter. 
Moving on to driving, some of you just don't recognize talent when you see it. My favorite is entering a busy street from just about any side road stop sign or not. You have to wait until the approaching traffic gets close then just pull out without making eye contact. That is why we don't make eye contact we are honing our talents for the next trip behind the wheel.
You people in Toronto or Vancouver that think you are so cool are going to love this next one. We figured out how to make fire. Evolved or what? Once again you will be going up against the best of the best. All you need is a pit in your back yard, some wet wood and a can of gas. FOOMP!! That should take care of any facial hair that got missed lighting farts on fire. 
You think you can take the muffler of your dodge truck get a dog that barks and howls day and night and compete guys good luck. Their exploits are legendary. They figured out wind speed and direction, how many leaves to add and when. Hell they can hospitalize the asthmatic neighbor kids in no time flat. Try that in Vancouver or Toronto and they will throw your ass in jail. 
That covers most of the solo activities but I have to say even I was taken aback by STD guy. This guy is 2 for 2 practicing unsafe sex. My first thought was did he tell the second girl what happened with the first girl? I best leave that one alone I am only assuming he was picking up girls and not working the lanes behind downtown hotels.


I actually feel like I have ptsd from living here. My friend back home reminded me "I can just get in my car and go" and this place is such a soul sucking, low vibe hick town that I was actually brainwashed to forget I could leave. I came here for graduate school and was silenced in the classroom, surrounded by absolute morons, and was completely bewildered to learn that the Saskatchewan concept of grad school is to simply repeat what the professors tell you. I'm being serious. No thinking allowed, just copying and repeating the material. I withdrew. I endured a terrible domestic violence relationship for a year. I didn't know such awful things could happen behind closed doors. All his friends, his family, neighbors knew he physically and emotionally abused me, and nobody offered me any help. They all acted like that was normal, and women are supposed to take it and be quiet. I never felt so alone in my whole life. 
Living in saskatoon feels like living on the moon. I escaped that relationship with the clothes on my back. When people say this province is 40 years behind, they aren't kidding. The way this man treated me was like I was furniture in his house. It terrified me to the bone.

I worked for social services here, and witnessed the horrible racism people have toward natives. I fell in love with my work, and was able to help the communities on 20th Street. But the organization I worked for was toxic as well, hiring their relatives, promoting people who gossiped and had bad work ethic, etc. It blew my mind. Everyone in this city seems like they're asleep. I don't understand. It's like they don't realise there are other cities beyond this one. 
Going to the lakes up north wasn't anything special, you can get that same experience in the river valley in Edmonton, or walking out your door in Ontario. The restaurants in saskatoon were just horrible, there is no culture here. I can't even explain the feeling of being around people who you sense don't care about you at all. It is extremely terrifying. I met people at Starbucks, in the gym, at work, on the LRT in Edmonton who became lifelong friends, inviting me to meet their families, helping me move, coming to get togethers in my home for coffee with other friends. That is not the culture in saskatoon. Visiting and making friends is not what people want to do.

I don't know how to express what I have witnessed here in saskatoon, I really did think it would be like a smaller Edmonton with prairie culture. You go anywhere in Edmonton, there's cowboy hats, hippie flowing dresses. I didn't see anyone who was attractive. I'm sorry I didn't. You go anywhere else and there are attractive people in different parts of Canada. Some of the native people kept themselves looking nice, but the white people were just plain looking. It was so weird.

I had opportunities to do field work at farms in the middle of nowhere, and the people looked like they had been staring out the window for twenty years. I couldn't believe it. Just expressionless and pale. I worked down near Regina for a company and the farmers there only wanted a mine if they got a payout, they didn't even care about their environment.

It blew my mind. No culture. No independent thought. I never made any girlfriends here in 2.5 years. Everywhere else in Canada I lived, I made tens of beloved friends, and enjoyed going for lunch, out to the bars, to their family dinners, etc. The native people I worked with were awesome, and displayed a true sense of humor, strength and practicality. I truly admire saskatoon native people, and I feel sick to my stomach at how racist the white people are to them. Someone commented Saskatchewan is like from the 18th century and I think that's true. Anyone wanting to move here, just don't. You won't built a support network or any friends, and you will truly start to understand that there are parts of Canada that are best left unexplored. What a complete shit hole.


I've lived on both coasts and grew up quite open minded and progressive. Having lived in Saskatchewan for 3 years now, I find myself growing bitter, judgemental and racist. Living on alphabet row I've noticed how careless, rude and self centered the native population is. The white population are also generally rude and close minded. The ever increasing foreign population makes one feel as if they are not in Canada anymore as multiculturalism is destroying Canadian culture and identity. It is creating a tribalistic collection of enclaves which do not integrate. Saskatoon is a shitty place to live for anyone who doesn't buy into intersectional politics, self victimization or LGBTQQIAAP politics. I am really not impressed by the social dynamics, etiquette and crime in this city. The social welfare programs are about the only thing Saskatchewan has going for it if you are not a skilled professional. Perhaps this is partly why it is the way it is. If you encounter an attractive woman, she's probably a golddigger, airhead or prostitute and a majority of other people are frumpy, obese, ugly or queer. 
I look forward to eventually moving out of Saskatchewan, perhaps BC as the nature there is revitalizing and beautiful and i'd rather deal with old asian ladies picking cans at 6am than tweaked out natives creating huge garbage messes when rummaging through dumpsters or breaking into mailboxes or drunkenly fighting and creating domestic disturbances.
Like I said, living here is making me bitter, judgemental and racist. I gotta get my ass outta here pronto.


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I seriously hate everything about the god-forsaken place. Its crappy American-wannabe stores, its garage sale-like "businesses". Do you ever wish you were not here.

It's not necessarily that, [R10], we pay much more in taxes, both sales and income, so that should cover living wages, universal health care, etc. A lot of prices are still based on the assumption that the US Dollar is worth more than the Canadian one, even by 30% or so, which hasn't been the case in years. Most Canadians are too sheepish as consumers to raise a stink about it but, in the last few years, my partner and I have started telling salespeople that if they are going to charge us that much for an electronics item or a new mattress, we are just going to drive over to Buffalo and buy it there since it would cost less even with customs duties included. You'd be surprised how quickly they change the tune and discounts appear out of thin air. It's just that the stores are counting on people paying whatever the price tag is without doing any comparison to the prices of same items in the States.


I wouldn't live there if you offered me free rent. I like sunshine, and warm beaches.


I don't hate it, but recently I have become impatient with it. Canadians can be openly miserly, cheap with waitstaff etc, which is evidence of a provincialism they seem desperate to cover, and fail at every time. Toronto especially has an inferiority complex that is truly crippling. The PCness of Canadian culture, while well-intentioned, coexists with a censorious, controlling politesse that can be really tedious. I liked it better when it was a bit of a hinterland. Now that media has gone global, that dorky backwoods charm is gone. As a result, there is no charm.


Totally agree, OP. I hate it, the whole country. Would love to get out of here.


Canada is a dull boring place. I lived there for 5 years and am so happy to be out of there. I can't imagine I will ever set foot in the place again. And don't get me started on the weather.


The taxes are extremely high.
The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world.
Infrastructure (roads, public facilities) is subpar compared to the States.
As a previous poster mentioned, the PC politesse can be stifling.
The cost of consumer goods is much higher than in the States despite parity with the US dollar.
As a Canadian, I would definitely consider relocating to a northern blue state like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine, Washington, etc. if I could get a similar paying job.



I have lived in different places all over Canada. I preferd mostly the small towns that I lived in.

I lived in Toronto for sometime and I hate how thh city tries so hard to be American like. And also about 90% of Canadians are fake. Forget that "politeness" thing, it's all fake. Trust!



"The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world."
This is true.
"And also about 90% of Canadians are fake"
This is true, too. It's really hard if you are one of the 10% that is not fake.



They DO have an inferiority complex. Especially the people who live in Ontario, Alberta and BC (i.e. Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver). They have no idea how they sound.



We pay a relatively high cost in taxes relative to services in the US.



To refute some of [R28]'s claims:

The Conference Board of Canada last week released a report highlighting the earnings dilemma. The report gives Canada a “C” on income per capita, compared to a U.S. “B” grade. That is, our income per capita is $36,138; it’s $43,025 south of the border — a difference of nearly $7,000. ____________________

Last year, a survey by Bank of Montreal on consumer goods found that domestic retail prices are about 14 per cent higher than those in the U.S.

The report pointed to some wide price gaps [particularly] in the auto industry. A car buyer in Oshawa could be at a dealership within walking distance of the factory where the Chevrolet Camaro was assembled and face a list price almost $5,000 greater than the list price of the Camaro in Hawaii.

Overall, price disparities are pinching retailers in this country. After Ottawa loosened its duty-free rules last June, Canadians began to flock across the border in record numbers: Overnight travel to the United States hit 950,000 in September, the highest number since Statistics Canada began record-keeping in 1972.



Um, [R27], Basketball was invented in Springfield, Massachusetts. I don't know where you got the idea that basketball was Canadian.

However, I do acknowledge that the inventor was Canadian-American.



I would argue that any difference in income for Canadian families is lost in the wash with the significantly higher cost of consumer goods and insane housing prices in Canada.

For the record - I do like living in Canada, but I dislike the sanctimony and superiorness of some Canadians (especially when comparing themselves to Americans). Our country has its share of problems however different than those in the States.



Left Canada 15 years ago... moved back about 4 years ago, and realized that I didn't really like Canadians much any more. The anti-American sentiment got old really fast - Canadians LOVE to complain about the U.S. - they define themselves as NOT American... Not really much of an identity...

And the supposed pro-Gay Canadians are only that way as long as they don't actually see any actual Gay people doing things horrifying like holding hands... People are still gaybashed in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal... In fact, two brothers who beat the crap out of two Gay guys in Vancouver while they called them all kinds of homophobic slurs, were just found NOT guilty.

The cost of living is astronomical... Buying food can cost an arm and a leg...

The only plus I'll give to Canada is the health care - way better than the system in the US... But not enough to keep me there... Moved back to California after a year in Canada....




London Ontario is the anti-gay center of Canada. Their mayor Diane Haskall, fought against public space for gay events for years until she went down to work for the US Republican party. Their chief of police, Julian Fantino, used to conduct anti-gay witch hunts in the city. Northern London, around Ilderton, is the worst.



"Canadian shops" don't really exist. The stores in Canada are basically American stores. Same American stores. And all full of stuff made in China.



Canada's National Heath service is already over burdened and the highways and city infrastructures are crumbling.

Canada DOES NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE.

Like the rest of the G7, they need to properly provide for the ones they already have.



Canada today is not the Canada of yesterday people loved so much.



Every time I see a Canadian home show like "Love It or List It" I'm reminded how ugly housing is in Toronto.



I don't think Americans think about Canada that much. But if you go on any Canadian website, you'll find that Canadians think quite a bit about Americans. And it's mostly negative stuff.



[R107] that's a laughable comment. If Canadians really didn't care about Americans' opinions, they wouldn't keep ripping off our culture. At least 75% of current Canadian "culture", whether it tv, film, music, fashion/style, new food ideas, slang speech is actually American. I have read plenty of hateful comments by Canadians but then when you look at their profiles they'll be filled with American culture.

Then there are the nice Canadians who either want to be American, or who have no problem admitting that their country rips off American ideas time and time again.



It's a dull, passionless country. Stable, boring, safe, sterile. Lacks an identity, lacks a soul.



Wannabe Americans and talentless Bieber and Drake are examples of "how amazing" Canada is...

[R120] if Canadians are so smart, why do they copy Americans so much? Why can't you guys come up with your own stuff? When you turn on a tv or listen to the radio, it's almost all American pop culture you see and hear.


I agree, [R122]
And Canada appears to be losing whatever charm or heart that it had.
The people are actually pretty cold and can be mean, too.


[R137] face it-Canadians are just fascinated with American culture and basically act like Americans. Most of them just don't admit it. You can stay mad, pressed and bothered all you like and try twisting it, but it's the truth and you know Canadians bend over for American culture time and time again.


[R149] is a typical Brit who doesn't know what he's talking about but has formed an opinion anyway.

You clearly don't know enough Canadians, or have not read enough Canadian posts online. Many of them try to proclaim how much better Canada is than the US. They're obsessed with that notion despite copying the US in almost every way possible.



im not a canadian but i have lived there a few years. and yes, definitely the us is by far a superior country to live in. for one thing, canada is way more racist than the usa, but there is so much denial about it, its like visiting a pervert uncle who is a pedophile and everyone knows it, but no one ever calls him on it. for another, canada is alike a parallel universe of america only its cheap (the quality of goods that is, since everything in canada is made in china), canadians dont know shit about good customer service, they are ignorant about the world in general and think everything they hear in the news about the world is actually the way things are. the majority of them have never been anywhere but still have a pompous self righteous attitude about themselves and their shithole country....in short, canada is like a cheap made in china imitation of the usa. i dont even know why the us even bothers with canada, we should just invade and get it over with since "canada" is really just uncle sam's mini-me, but nowhere near as cool or bad ass.



When was the last time someone started a thread saying how fabulous the US is?

I think you've got it reversed. It's the Canadians who are obsessed with America. And they're quite bitter. They should be happy. They're like the lamprey eel that gets to ride along on the back of the Great White Shark.



Some Canuckians seem to think they know what America is like based solely on tv shows, movies and negative news. The ones who actually come here for shopping and vacation always love it.

In Canucka, most of the films, tv shows and music people are into come from the US and then the rest are Canuckian and British.

Canucka barely has a culture of its own yet they seem to think they're better than everyone else.



[R151] is correct about the racism and denial of it. People are especially racist towards Native Canadians & Asians. They're also very Classicist.



(143) You asked what American culture is besides hamburger meat and guns.

Last time I checked, Canada didn't create Abstract Expressionism, Jazz, Rock n Roll, Hip Hop, Rap. It didn't produce Emily Dickinson, Melville, Faulkner, Harper Lee. It didn't produce Martin Scorcese. It doesn't have the largest Art museum in the Western Hemisphere (the US does, its called the Met, dear.) Toronto is in no way shape or form comparable to NYC. Its very nice, but it is not on the level of a NY, Paris or Rome.

I used to like Canadians, but then I realized after listening to many of them that they truly believe that being Canadian makes them intrinsically superior to Americans, even if an American is smart, sensitive and liberal. Its bizarre and kind of pathetic.

When Canadians talk about culture, they often mention health insurance. While your social system is lovely, and I admire it very much and hope for the same here, I don't think of health insurance when I think of cultural output.

But its a wasted argument because I feel most Canadians like to say we have no culture... all the while listening to the music that originated in OUR country.

PS: MANY countries other than Canada have national Universal health coverage. You are not unique or special because of this.



Per 132, Canadians apparently "dominate" the US film/tv industry.
there are some seriously delusional people on this thread.



Yup. I lived in the US for many years but was forced to come back and I HATE it. If I never lived in the US I would never have known how good and easy life could be and how much nicer and more positive people are. In Canada, everyone is rooting for you to fail only so they don't look bad in comparison. I HAAAATE living here! The free health care is definitely NOT worth it. I wish I could get out but I'm stuck.



White Canadians are nice to other white Canadians. Non white Canadians like Natives or Blacks? Not so much.


Canada is so overrated.


Yeah, I hate Canada as a Canadian. Everyone's such a phony here. They put on a fake, Stepforder smile that makes you want to tear it off their faces. The services around here are shit. For example, the corporations make you pay double the amount to get at least a mediocre internet speed. But who could blame them? They're all bent down to submit to the system by chanting their 'Canada is the best country in the world' bullshit. The job market's depressing. The government's corrupt to the core, going in so far as much as lying to the 250,000 immigrants every year about the so-called 'job opportunities.' Free health care, my ass. The government squeeze money out of Canadians through extreme taxation and keep it for themselves instead of using it right for the public. I've had a friend who died right next to me from chest pain (turned out to be some kind of heart problem), and we were waiting for the doctor for about an hour. Why the fuck wasn't the hospital wasn't sued? I got no fucking clue. And now, since the government supposedly feels guilty for what they've done to the Natives and the handicapped people, they all get free scholarships and university education just for being Natives and handicapped. Fucking shit, right? Liberalism is the new Conservatism around here. Everything about Canada is shit, I tell you. It's S-H-I-T.



I'm Canadian and I HATE CANADA!!!!!!!

What an arrogant frozen shithole.

I'm from Toronto and was raised to hate Quebec but I realized very recently that although they can be annoying, they are the only culture we have.

Don't get me wrong, Quebec is a frozen shithole just like the rest of Canada but it's a more interesting shithole. Canada's a pile of crap but Quebec's crap has a little almond in it... a little extra something.

No wonder they wanted to separate. We're so fucking boring we gave them fantasies of separation. Would they have wanted to leave if they had been part of a far more culturally interesting country like the U.S? Probably not. They'd be like Lousianna today. But they're stuck with old grandpa Canada who wears sweatpants and goes to bed at 7p.m

I hate this fucking stepford wife country.

We're so dull, people want to leave lol.

Americans have their problems but they're fun people! Even their problems are more interesting than ours!

Man, I spent some time in Florida, California, Las Vegas, New York, I love it all.

There's an energy to the U.S that you don't find in Canada.

Canada has no soul. It's all about fake politeness but they're all secretly bitter and filled with hate and jealousy towards the U.S.

Canadians bash the U.S constantly. If you don't like Americans then get rid of American stores and products. What would Canada look like then? Like nothing and it's nothingness would be sucked into a black hole and disappear foever.

I've traveled all over the world and even poor countries have more personality and more culture than Canad'eh.

Canada defines itself by what it isn't (not American) instead of by what it is and that's because it's nothing at all.



Yes I do, I wish I was in the states every minute of every day



There is NO intellectual life in Canada. A little bit in Montreal, but that is it. It's just buy a house, get a big vehicle, eat, drink, smoke pot. You can't have an intellectual conversation and you can't have fun.



[R197] is correct. Boring people that worship money. Zero personality or sex appeal. No culture.



Sorry [R211] and [R212] but Canada has always been boring.



I know it has always been boring, but now it is aggressively stupid, crude and boring



Yes I hate Crapnada.



I hate a lot of things about it. I like the healthcare and safety nets for poor people. Other than that I'm not a fan.



Canada is a ugly, corrupt country where health care is inferior and yet, we pay 70% of our income into some kind of taxes. Justice is a global joke with the criminals from other countries running the borders to get into the country. The government doesn't even know how many illegals there are in the country..but they were quick to let in 500 Tamil Warriors..they have stocked the country with people born in revolution and raised in blood. Our leaders, one is a crook, one is a junkie.. what kind of choice is that come vote time? Right now Canada is in a dictatorship and the people are paying dearly for that. That is..the ones who are trapped here. Last year 1.8 million Canadians got out. The actual land mass is so beautiful..with a poisonous fungus living on it in Ottawa


This country is a fucking joke!!! Government steals from us so fucking immigrants can come here poor and get everything handed to them including near free stores of their choosing!! Fuck you Canada!!!!!!


I hate being a Canadian. I would gladly and without hesitation denounce my Canadian citizenship to get an American citizenship.


I loathe this country, always focusing on the US and their issues instead of fixing our own problems. The only people who would dare say they like Canada are either immigrants of someone who has never seen anything else. Disgusting, revolting country.



The Alberta mentality puts money before humanity. I really regret moving to Alberta and Canada as a whole. All it has got going for it is equal marriage rights and the chance of buying land for cheaper than in Europe. The mentality is cold, two faced and inhuman. Apparently the East coasters and Ontarians have a better mentality.I have lived in a few countries and Canada is one of my least favourite. I cannot wait to leave.



TAXES ARE TERRIBLE, WORK FOR 40 YEARS TRY TO RETIRE, THEY MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE. YOU WOULD THINK A COUNTRY THAT YOU PAID TOP TAXES TO ALL YOUR LIFE WOULD BE THERE IN YOUR RETIREMENT YEARS. NOT THIS HOLE.



Last time I visited Canada(and the last time I will EVER visit Canada) the people (especially waitstaff) were terse and bitchy, the food was insipid,,poorly prepared and was expensive as hell. And they seemed to have a particular animus toward Americans despite the fact I don't think I was brash or offensive in any way.

I don't get why anyone would spend that much $$$ just to live in such a cold,gray,rainy,depressing environment.

I'll bet the suicide rates are high



[R253] is right Canadians have an irrational hatred for Americans.



they're insecure and bitter *shrugs*

how would you feel if almost every aspect of your culture came from another country? and that you only chased trends from said country?

Canuckians aren't creative or interesting enough to come up with their own ideas apparently.

It makes them feel better to try and insult the culture from which they take and borrow.



This is a stupid country..always has been and probably always will be... People are right, we pay more than our fair share for the "free" healthcare which now runs like an American insurance company....and you will wait... It is cold taxes are too high and most people save their money to get the hell out on a vacation... Way too expensive to live here...



I have always hated living in Canada..it is too confining...there is no where good to move to. If you live in the us, you have a vast area to choose from. Canadians do not.. We are stuck in a hell hole and anybody that can get out does....so we are left with those that don't pay taxes..because they have it easier than the taxpayer. Housing is way too overvalued and unaffordable..unless of course it is provided to you for free..( the non taxpayer). Everything is overpriced. It doesn't matter what government is in..they take care of themselves ..much like anywhere else...but you would think they would try harder here because they take a to. In taxes. Roads are crap and outdated..healthcare is nothing to be proud of..the country is embarrassing...

I wish we were just one country..US and Canada..you could put a gate around Canada and keep all the welfare and all the prisoners here...that would put the country to good use...




Yeah [R264], but the US is still fun. I've been to New York, Las Vegas, Miami and Arizona many times and love it and just came back from visiting a friend in California and it was awesome. There's no awesome place in Canada. It's boring as hell most of the time.

Canada looks good on paper but actually living here is another story.



That's true, [R261], about how expensive it's become. I live on the frozen prairies, and we have some of the highest taxes (provincial and property), as well as some of the highest housing costs. I mean, there's no reason for it to be that expensive here - who the hell would want to live here?



It's funny a lot of people are just comparing Canada to America in this discussion. I've lived in both countries, they both suck. Canada for way different reasons, mostly the generally unaffordable living standards and the insane amount of bureaucracy. And the weather.... dear god the weather. Canada is what people thought Hell was before Dante's inferno. For the past five years every winter has been colder and longer than the last, I can't take it any more. If you want to leave check out Argentina or Costa Rica or Uruguay. Warm, friendly, cheap countries that are relatively easy to emigrate to. OH, and the Seychelles, if you're a dude. M2F ratio is unreal. ;)



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